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Am I missing anything here? Wondering if any Freeper has any better feedback.
1 posted on 02/13/2014 7:14:06 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG
What you cited is true. If it is a cult that claims to be Christian, they will say "Oh yes, of course you need Jesus........BUT you need Jesus AND {Fill In The blank}. Run away from these people.
2 posted on 02/13/2014 7:18:47 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: GraceG

So if I claimed to be God, and found a bunch of nitwits that believed me and did not harass any of them when leaving or forced them to separate or distance themselves from their families I am not a cult leader?

I think you need to refine your definition.


3 posted on 02/13/2014 7:19:17 PM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: GraceG

for later


4 posted on 02/13/2014 7:19:36 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: GraceG

I have always heard it like this.

Cults are offshoots of a religion. While SECTS and DENOMINATIONS hold to core tenets of a religion, but may be very alien in terms of doctrine, CULTS are almost the opposite. Despite doctrinal similarities, they reject the core tenets of a religion.

Christian cults often have the rejection of the Trinity as their marker.


5 posted on 02/13/2014 7:23:18 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: GraceG
Consider Islam - the penalty for apostasy is death.



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Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

6 posted on 02/13/2014 7:23:44 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: GraceG

If my daughter wanted to leave our faith to become a burqa wearing follower of another faith, I think she’d might get a bit of harassment from me.


8 posted on 02/13/2014 7:24:28 PM PST by MNDude
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To: GraceG

Cults are held together on more of a tribal or pack basis whereas religions contain more of a spiritual element. Tribal instincts are not spiritual at all, they’re crude and sort of animalistic in nature.


11 posted on 02/13/2014 7:26:25 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: GraceG
A cult used to be a small group that was committed to one out of a pantheon of deities rather then spreading the worship around. The Cult of Isis, the Cult of Dionysus are examples.

Then it became a group that did not follow the "orthodox" beliefs of whatever religion was predominate in that area.

Now I would say your definition works pretty well for common usage.

12 posted on 02/13/2014 7:27:13 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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We addressed this in an apologetics course. The number one red flag: openness and transparency. In everything, to include:

history theology leadership finances

Orthodox Christianity is an open book. Anyone can look at the data. Anyone can inquire and make a challenge. No one has "secret knowledge" or authority beyond checks and balances provided for in Scripture: no one can "Lord over the church".

13 posted on 02/13/2014 7:28:42 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: GraceG

So,,the Amish are a cult?


15 posted on 02/13/2014 7:31:38 PM PST by Craftmore
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To: GraceG
RULE OF THUMB: Whatever I no like is a cult!


16 posted on 02/13/2014 7:33:20 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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If the members speak a different language or have a dress code that’s much different than the norm,it’s a cult.

If the belief system includes ideas that defy conventional logic,like a space ship is going to pick up all the true believers-it’s a cult.


17 posted on 02/13/2014 7:33:46 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?resource=Webster%27s&word=cult&use1913=on&use1828=on


18 posted on 02/13/2014 7:35:49 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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Simple and excellent criteria. I commend you - for years so many have struggled so much to define what is and what isn’t a cult.

BUT, at the same time, many groups and denominational churches have some of these characteristics......you are warmly welcomed when you come, but criticized and condemned when you leave.

Yes, true saints will love you and treat you the same coming or going - unless things were as in Romans 16:17, 18, and I Timothy 1:19, 20.

I know a man who recently told his investment advisors to who he had committed much of his fortune that he was leaving them. Instead of protesting, or trying to keep him, they were very gracious and understanding, wishing him the best and supporting him regardless. The CEO of the investment firm later mentioned to me that he had once attended a seminar on how important it was for an investment advisor to treat a client graciously when he/she left for another firm.

I immediately thought of how this should be applied in the local church.

If they bad-mouth and criticize those who leave - it has cultic tendencies at least........


19 posted on 02/13/2014 7:37:58 PM PST by Arlis
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I would go a bit further and say that if the “religion” tells you that you will always be a follower of it, whether you like it or not, it is a cult.


20 posted on 02/13/2014 7:38:15 PM PST by firebrand
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1. Be able to leave it without any sort of harassment. 2. Should not force you to leave or distance yourself from your non-believer family members

Very Good Grace, Brevity is the Soul of Wit.

Which Means Islam is OUT!

22 posted on 02/13/2014 7:39:45 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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There is no difference. The question of whether an adherent of a particular faith is free to apostatize from their former beliefs changes with time and place.


23 posted on 02/13/2014 7:41:03 PM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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If it requires you to try to be good enough for God, it is a cult.


24 posted on 02/13/2014 7:46:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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ping


25 posted on 02/13/2014 7:54:34 PM PST by logitech (It is time.)
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To: GraceG

I think it is all about control. A cult demands full control over your behavior, your associations and even your thoughts.


26 posted on 02/13/2014 7:59:07 PM PST by rbbeachkid (Get out of its way and small business can fix the economy.)
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