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1 posted on 02/09/2014 11:00:46 PM PST by Olog-hai
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So, after smoking, what lifestyle choice kills the most people? Those who use bicycles to commute, or homosexuals? Either way, should we feel free to go after them next, once smoking has been obliterated?


2 posted on 02/09/2014 11:03:36 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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cigarette smoking is no longer considered normal behavior, and is now less popular among teens than marijuana.

Now there's progress for ya..

3 posted on 02/09/2014 11:04:15 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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Experts = Government paid phd’s who can’t hold a job in the private sector. They have an extensive vocabulary however, so they can sound and author written essays on whatever topic the government grant is paying that year.


6 posted on 02/09/2014 11:09:31 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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Just imagine how high other taxes will have to go to make up for the lost revenue from tobacco taxes.

It’s crazy how aggressively the government is going after those e-cigs that would help get people off smoking.


7 posted on 02/09/2014 11:09:42 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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Personally, I quit after smoking for over 30 years.

Stupid habit, damn near impossible to throw off (it has been described as more addicting that Heroin).

But legal.

The funny part is all that wonderful Big Tobacco revenue stream from the bogus lawsuits will dry up.

Much of that revenue stream is to support Health Services.

Some dang good irony there...


8 posted on 02/09/2014 11:11:22 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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Everyone who’s anyone these days smokes marijuana; it’s not counted as “smoking” as long as it’s not that evil weed, tobacco.

Sure, you get the same emphysema and lung cancer, but, hey, you’re too high to care, baby.

Brave New World on the way.

Or 1984, depending on your perspective.


10 posted on 02/09/2014 11:13:13 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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I find it funny they want to ban tobacco smoking and force kids to smoke pot.


12 posted on 02/09/2014 11:18:18 PM PST by nickcarraway
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The state government of California alone makes more money than any tobacco company from cigarettes. They never want to give up revenue, so how long before they want kids to smoke more.


13 posted on 02/09/2014 11:20:46 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Health officials
14 posted on 02/09/2014 11:22:41 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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With "health" as the prime consideratuon....

Lose tax revenue to lost tobacco sales.
Legalize and support pot sales to gain it back.

No hypocrisy there, nope.

16 posted on 02/09/2014 11:25:04 PM PST by llevrok (F the government)
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Ah, yes, cigarettes bad, marijuana good medical treatment and there are laws that prove that. /s/s/s


17 posted on 02/09/2014 11:32:38 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Olog-hai

I never really have been a regular smoker, but I admit once or twice a year I really enjoy a good cigar. Love the smell of a pipe, too. My grandpa used to smoke apple-scented tobacco in his, and I loved it.

I also have tried snuff - the kind you inhale, not the chewing tobacco kind. A bit like putting a hornet up your nose, but it does clear the sinuses.

I’d rather drink toilet water than chew. My buddy let me try his Kodiak one time, and it made my lip bleed. No thanks.


20 posted on 02/09/2014 11:38:17 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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Maybe these nannies could work on eliminating chewing gum, as ruled in Singapore
21 posted on 02/09/2014 11:42:35 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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I work in a city with a large college and fervent anti-smoking laws. Cigarettes are not going away because young and rebellious people are always going to be attracted to tobacco as long as it is considered “adult” and “risky”. It’s the thrill of doing something their parents would disapprove that gets young people hooked on smoking.

The dumbest idea is banning e-cigs because it is the safest way to smoke if you must smoke and quit if you’re trying to quit but the smoking nazis hate it because it *looks* like smoking. I’ve sat at the next table while someone smoked an e-cig and couldn’t smell a thing. That never happens with tobacco smokers.

I think with each generation the percentage is going down but I don’t think you’ll ever see a tobacco-free population except by government mandate.


22 posted on 02/09/2014 11:50:37 PM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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The power of tobacco companies

Tobacco companies, so powerful that they are unable to successfully fight any legislation. They hand billions over to the feds, and through their sales, pour billions more into state coffers to use on programs to end consumption of their products. I'm sorry, but can we please end this fantasy? 'Big Tobacco' left the party nearly two decades ago.

23 posted on 02/09/2014 11:57:13 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Look forward to increased taxes to replace that tobacco cash cow. Gasoline? yep. Food? yep


25 posted on 02/10/2014 12:00:35 AM PST by Figment
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cigarette smoking is no longer considered normal behavior

The smoking wars are over. Yes a few skirmishes still happen but common sense won.

27 posted on 02/10/2014 1:58:41 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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Ah, those experts... what destruction of personal freedom won't they presume to contemplate next?

Aren't we all so privileged they were called upon to perform their grievous task?

29 posted on 02/10/2014 2:19:19 AM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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While they promote POT smoking!


36 posted on 02/10/2014 5:46:58 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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As far as I know there have been no studies on the effect of reduced tobacco use on Federal and state taxes.

Higher and higher taxes have had an impact on tobacco use, probably as much as advertising campaigns on the health hazards of use. This follows the axiom that if you want less of something tax it to death.

However, legislators have been careful to calculate their tax schedules on tobacco so as not to kill the golden goose.

I believe most of these excise taxes are used as general funds and not for tobacco reduction so the long term effect of reducing these funds will be an enormous reduction of income for government use.

Where will the legislators look for taxpayers to replace the lost income?


38 posted on 02/10/2014 8:00:21 AM PST by wildbill
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