Posted on 02/08/2014 4:32:14 PM PST by Jayster
Well at best they are certainly dancing around that "fact" of where he was born. But Zullo did say that "that thing was fraudulently created for the sole purpose to defraud."
So if it was created to defraud then the information on "that thing" is fraudulent. One can only know the information is fraudulent if one knows what the truth is....no?
“So if it was created to defraud then the information on “that thing” is fraudulent. One can only know the information is fraudulent if one knows what the truth is....no?”
No. There are two separate forensic investigations:
1. Is the LFBC a true and correct copy of the original?
2. What are the true facts surrounding Barry’s birth?
Proving that the LFBC was forged does not answer the second question. Proving that the WH LFBC was forged does not prove what is or is not in the HI vault or whether Barry was or was not born in HI or anywhere else or who his parents were.
However, if the second question can be answered, such as finding a living Kenya birth witness or Kenyan official with access to Kenyan birth records, and the evidence and testimony would survive in federal court (or Congress) that refutes facts claimed on the LFBC, then Congress can investigate and overturn the “full faith and credit” protection firewall that HI DOH has relied on so far.
Progressives, like the Europeans, have always wanted to end the death penalty for any reason. I don’t see this as related to the conspiracy to usurp the presidency.
In the same way that the majority of our generation doesn’t care that shameless Bill Clinton defiled the White House, they won’t care that Barry lied about where he was born to become POTUS...sadly.
We boomers remember how Nixon was pardoned to prevent the “sustained national trauma” of a trial. Biden would pardon him and his co-conspirators. Biden or whichever new president the US would have if this crisis hits this year after the “universe-shattering” reveal.
Irreconcilable dual minded insanity.
In this case it appears to be self preservation...
Lol. Good call.
Also for those who haven’t had a chance to listen to the video:
Gallops said something very close to: “ When you “get to” the birth certificate issue (at the press event I think he meant), that’s really a done deal. All of the people out there who have been marginalized, as birthers, will be vindicated.”
While making that statement he rambles and stresses that this vindication is ONLY about those who are mocked for thinking the White House released birth certificate is not up to snuff, and NOT those who question where obama was born, as Zullo has not investigated anything along those lines.
SO again I note that he does not imply that the information contained on the released “long form birth certificate” is incorrect or fraudulent, but that the document itself certainly is, and can be proved fraudulent.
I get no sense that they have information about obamas birth circumstances, but just the proof needed to destroy the validity of the “document” purported to be obamas long form birth certificate.
I think the two investigations are targeting different things altogether. I sense the second investigation is something quite different than the whole birth issue.
“I sense the second investigation is something quite different than the whole birth issue.”
I agree.
IIRC, last year before the “universe-shattering” evidence came to light, Zullo said on Gallups’ show on several occasions that there was no hard evidence that SADO was with Barry in HI before 1963 and no hard evidence “that she was even his mother.” That still does not mean they have proved an alternate narrative.
Also, IIRC, either Gallups or Zullo said that something like “you will be shocked to find out who he really is.” That does not mean they are talking about birth location or nationality, but it might. It does indicate that something about his true identity is shocking. KGB operative would be my guess, recruited in the 1980s...perhaps revealed and documented by a former Soviet KGB witness.
Zullo, more recently, has stayed away from making insinuations about whether SADO is his mom or whether he was born in HI.
What do you make of this?
http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.com/2014/02/breaking-update-maricopa-county.html
4Zoltan:
From the article at your link:
http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.com/2014/02/breaking-update-maricopa-county.html
“Earlier this afternoon, Arizona’s Politics received confirmation from the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office that it had two detectives working on a criminal investigation related to the 2 1/2-year long probe into President Barack Obama’s birth certificate. A spokesperson for Sheriff Joe Arpaio now tells Arizona’s Politics that his information was INCORRECT, and that birth certificate lead investigator Mike Zullo ‘was incorrect’.
“MCSO Lt. Brandon Jones states that he “was misinformed” when he had confirmed the information earlier. He now states that “The detectives are not working on anything regarding the birth certificate. Not even surrounding. Mr Zullo was incorrect, they are working on other sensitive cases not even related.”
“During a radio interview this past Friday, Zullo had talked about the 2nd investigation, and had indicated that he was assisting the two MCSO ‘full time detectives.’”
All Arpaio’s spokesman Lt. Jones is doing is confirming that he, Lt. Jones, made a mistake in what he earlier confirmed Zullo as saying. Lt. Jones is wrong when he says Zullo was mistaken. What Zullo said to Gallups was correct.
If you listen closely to the Freedom Friday interview and Gallups subsequent comments, Zullo said there are two SEPARATE investigations and Zullo is leading one (the BC fraud investigation) but also “helping out” on the other (the Universe-Shattering Evidence investigation).
Gallups and Zullo affirmed that the BC fraud investigation is “irrelevant” to the Universe-Shattering Evidence.
Zullo has made clear that NO public funds or MCSO deputies are being used for the BC fraud investigation. After Zullo got off the air Gallups made a plea for donations to continue to fund Zullo’s CCP BC fraud investigation and said that CCP was ONLY funded by public donations.
After Zullo hung up Gallups made further comments on Zullo saying that he might ask Arpaio to do two separate media events for each of the separate investigations.
Curiously, Gallups said (but I don’t exactly recall) Zullo had said that he wanted the Universe-Shattering Evidence media event to go FIRST...and then the BC fraud media event would follow, but Gallups implies that the BC fraud event would be a sort of after-thought of much less importance at that point.
I may have to go back and listen to the tape again because I didn’t catch Zullo saying or implying that the BC fraud event should go second.
Here is the original report
http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.com/2014/02/sheriff-arpaio-now-has-2-ft-detectives.html
They contacted the MCSO, who said talk to Zullo, then said yes there are two detectives and now say no there aren’t two detectives.
From the initial report:
“Arpaio spokesperson Lt. Brandon Jones confirmed to Arizona’s Politics that the detectives are working on the related investigation. After first referring the matter to Zullo for comment, Jones stated: “We have two Sheriff’s detectives assigned to look into other issues surrounding the birth certificate, however they are not investigating the birth certificate issue itself.”
That is essentially what Zullo told Gallups. So why come back and say that there no dectectives are involved?
What does “Not even surrounding. Mr Zullo was incorrect.”
What was Mr. Zullo incorrect about?
I don't recall that either.
The latest on BirtherReport:
http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/02/mcso-confirms-then-denies-sheriff.html
UPDATE, 3:40pm: The MCSO has given a new statement to Arizona’s Politics: “We have two Sheriff’s detectives assigned to look into other issues surrounding the birth certificate, however they are not investigating the birth certificate issue itself.”
Direct link to Arizona Politics with the update confirming
“BREAKING: MCSO Confirms Sheriff Arpaio Now Has 2 FT Detectives Working On Investigation Related To President Obama Birth Certificate Investigation”
http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.com/2014/02/sheriff-arpaio-now-has-2-ft-detectives.html
That's the way I understood it when I listened to Gallups' program in the first place. Disinformation agents working overtime. . .
Latest to the latest. From a BR poster and also written in the latest BR article.
"Joe Mannix: Hold on a minute fella's. I just noticed 'ArizonaPolitics.com' is posting over at Fogbow and noticed he has 21 posts to date there. This could be a deception by Obots to attempt to make Zullo out to be liar. We need confirmation from another trustworthy source. I don't think a spokes person from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office would be on the phone this time of night talking to a blogger about what is going on with these detectives."
Foggblowers praising AZ politics on this past Klayman thread,
http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9198&start=100
And can go over his Foggy post here searching the website.
https://www.google.com/#q=ArizonasPolitics.com+site%3Athefogbow.com
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