Posted on 01/08/2014 7:15:19 PM PST by Morgana
WASHINGTON, D.C., January 3, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) While abortion advocates have long maintained that late-term abortions are almost always procured by devastated mothers whose babies have received fatal diagnoses and arent expected to survive long after birth, an analysis by a network of crisis pregnancy centers of a recent study paints a different picture.
When researchers with CareNet dug into the data of the recent Turnaway Study (see previous coverage here and here), which was conducted by pro-choice advocates, they found that most women in the study who sought late-term abortions were between the ages of 20 and 24 and were in unstable relationships and had financial problems.
These women typically discovered they were pregnant later (12 weeks on average, compared to 5 weeks for those who sought earlier abortions), and were more likely to fight with the father over whether to have the abortion at all. It also took them longer to come up with the money for an abortion.
The CareNet team quoted one woman interviewed by the Turnaway Studys authors who waited until 21 weeks to seek an abortion because, I couldnt afford it.
They told me it was going to be $650, [but] by the time I was able to raise the $650, they had to do a different procedure, and so the price went up, the woman said. The price jumped to $1,850 and they dont take insurance.
The Turnaway Study tracked around 200 women who were refused abortions. Many of them sought late-term abortions, which was the reason they were turned away.
Chris Slattery, National Director of the EMC FrontLine Pregnancy centers, told LifeSiteNews the study conforms to our experience with women facing crisis pregnancies.
Rarely do we find true medical emergencies amongst those considering abortion in late term pregnancies, Slattery told LSN. We often find emotional coercion by family and close friends, abandonment by the father, and financial stress is what most often drives expectant mothers to abort late in pregnancy.
About 15,000 late-term abortions are performed every year in the U.S. about 1.5% of the total number.
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Women who consider late-term abortion often do so from a place of desperation, and, perhaps, fear, said CareNet CEO Roland Warren. Yet, abortion only complicates the difficulties in her situation and late-term abortion involves not only real suffering for the fetus but also serious risks to maternal health.
Abortion after 20 weeks gestation been the subject of considerable controversy over the past year, as mounting scientific evidence that babies begin to feel pain at that stage of development has prompted state and federal legislators to introduce pain-capable unborn child protection laws banning the procedure after 20 weeks.
Additionally, the shocking case of Kermit Gosnell, an abortionist convicted of murder for severing the spines of babies born alive after botched procedures at his filthy West Philadelphia clinic, highlighted the irony of laws that say its perfectly legal to decapitate fully-grown infants inside the womb, but move the exact same baby just a few inches and seconds, and it becomes a capital offense.
Around the same time Gosnell was convicted, Live Action released a series of undercover videos exposing late-term abortionists as equally willing to murder babies born alive after abortion. And the high profile death of a kindergarten teacher in Maryland after her botched late-term abortion raised public awareness even further, leading many to question why a woman would want to undergo such a risky procedure at all.
My point is that, by removing downsides to having kids out of wedlock (ie, the girl could get the guy to pay child support with or without marriage), it directly and predictably led to a large increase in out-of-wedlock births.
That may be true, but the alternatives are abortion (which punishes the child) or children living in poverty (which punishes the child).
No matter which way you look at it, when one or both parents abdicate responsibility, children pay the price. They always have
Abortion is a just a more modern, convenient way to get the same result ... get out of responsibility. Because it is so convenient more children pay the price with this method.
The very LEAST we can do is not contribute to the problem by condoning the shifting around of responsibility.
It is extremely clear who is responsible for a child coming into existence and for its welfare: the two people who created him/her. We should insist that these facts be stated clearly and without any equivocation whatsoever.
Correct. But sadly, some women prefer abortion to 18 years of chasing after child support for a kid the guy doesn’t want. Some women are coerced, especially teens, by their own parents. She’s scared and feels abandoned at a vulnerable time. Not saying that’s right, but it happens. Maybe you wouldn’t walk away but plenty of men would.
A LOT of us wouldn’t be here if our parents, grandparents, and on up hadn’t taken responsibility for the child they made.
Quite so ... I expect it was the sort of thing where the couple did the right thing (got married, in this case), were good parents, and didn’t discuss the irregularity.
You are caviling. Women are solely responsible for children being ABORTED.
Men have no authority in this matter, and why you have this pathological need to "share" the responsibility when the authority is most definitely NOT shared, I can only attribute to some form of cognitive dissonance.
What a load. The only reason a woman prefers an abortion is because she prefers and abortion.
All the rest is camouflage, excuse, and rationalization.
In the life of a free person, you can ask for help, or direct your own affairs...women want to do both, interchangeably.
And if abortion were not acceptable to women, men wouldn't even dream of them.
The example that proves the liberal mindset is the woman who is brain dead and on life support but 14+ weeks pregnant. Rather than keep her hooked up until the child can live independently, the leftists insist that she is dead, and that is that. They truly fear treating this one baby as a living person because it might come back to bite their baby-killing proclivities in the future. It was sickening to hear a debate participant insisting that this child be killed, without actually saying so.
It is wrong to punish the child (by withholding a sacrament) for the actions of a parent, just as it is wrong to kill a child for convenience.
You leave out:
(C) being more meticulous about birth control;
(D) not sleeping with men who, while being "hot" and charming, are not likely to want to marry and support a child;
(E) not having sex before marriage;
etc, etc, etc.
Look, throughout history, there have ALWAYS been charming cads, who are able to serially impregnate girl after girl after girl. It only takes ONE guy who is charming and who doesn't give a damn about what happens after he's had his fun, like Desmond Hatchett, who fathered 30 children by 11 different women. What do you propose to do about guys like this? Execute them?
Over the entirety of recorded history, the ONLY thing that has EVER worked is for there to be sanctions applied to women who get pregnant outside marriage.
I did not leave those out.
Those are before the fact.
Sanctions against women have never worked. History shows this. The child always pays the price.
But I understand. You are looking for absolution from responsibility, not to end or slow down the practice of abortion.
It remains as it ever was.
Creating a child is prerequisite to abortion.
Again, you either:
Want less abortion
Want more abortion
Want about the same amount of abortion.
Don’t care either way.
This is the issue. If you want less abortion you have to go to the root of the problem. But you won’t do that. Because to do that, you’d have to admit that men are 50% responsible for the child existing in the first place. And in your case (and people of like mindset) you are more interested in shifting responsibility away from one party to the other, even at the cost of creating incentives toward abortion (and before that, child abandonment, caste systems for children etc.).
It is of utmost importance that men bear no responsibility for the creation of children. That is all that matters, nothing else.
Same as it ever was.
And how (if it were true)is that any worse than your pathological need to "share" responsibility for killing children by purposely conflating abortion with conception?
The moral blackmail of "solve everything or admit you want orphans to work in sweatshops until they starve to death" is a nice touch, though hardly surprising given your record, too.
The "root" of the problem is women thinking abortion is acceptable and the men who take that ball and run with it.
If women exercised as much disdain and contempt for abortion as they do for "leaving the seat up," the practice would be a punishable offense instead of a "choice."
In order for abortion to take place (and before that back in history child abandonment and children placed in castes) there had to be a child created.
Creating a child when one or both parents have no intention of taking responsibility for it is the ROOT of the problem.
Abortion is only a means to avoid responsibility.
It’s the avoiding of responsibility, which starts way before the abortion takes place, that is the problem.
It is an age old problem going back far into antiquity ... adults shunning responsibility for children they create.
Abortion is merely the more modern and convenient means for avoiding responsibility. The fact that society ALLOWS some one or both parents to avoid responsibility (and has done for millennia) is the root of the problem.
You seem to want to keep the avoiding responsibility part (for one party). That’s fine, I understand that because that is the status quo response to this issue.
But abortion will never end as long as we allow that status quo mindset to prevail.
If we want children to keep paying the price of parental abdication of responsibility then let’s keep the status quo. It’s never ever been to the advantage of children, but hey, that’s the price that has to be paid to so that some adults don’t have to be held accountable. Too bad for the children, but at least we have set out what is most important in this debate.
Good post.
Continually restating the same dodge does not make it any less a dodge.
Conceptions do not cause abortions, proven by the fact that many conceptions result in live births.
Conception is NOT the ROOT of abortion. Women obtaining abortions is the root. But apparently you think men have to take responsibility BEFORE women should be expected to do the same.
Same as it ever was.....
Making the child pay is what it is all about.
It is what it has always been about.
Abortion is merely a new method of doing it.
Pay what, for what? Children don't have anything. They can't pay anything.
You have mistaken your own metaphor for actual content.
Again you are trying to absolve women, and failing that, drag men along for the ride, while using children as a human shield.
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