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To: MarineBrat; Boogieman
I suppose then my question should have been "Why are you so mad that Microsoft didn't ask you if you wanted to keep the start button?"

"Chaitanya Sareen, principal program manager at Microsoft, told U.K. computer publication PC Pro that data indicated a decrease in the use of the Start button. Citing "telemetry" obtained by the Microsoft Customer Experience Improvement Program, Sareen said the company found more users relying on the Windows taskbar for pinning and accessing their favorite software instead of going through the Start menu." Source: Why Microsoft murdered the Start button in Windows 8.

I realize that I can still "Pin" all my favorite programs to the Metro GUI and then click the little down arrow on the bottom left to access all my other programs through the "Start" menu - or even easier I can just type Notepad and hit enter...

There is no difference in Business vs Home use when it comes to the new Metro GUI. It's a "I can't handle change" problem... Believe me, I rolled out Win 7 to a large segment of our 40k+ employee company and the wailing was over-the-top at first, but once they touched it everyone wanted it. Now all the other business segments are using political connections to be next in line. Yes, the move to Win 8 will be just like the move to Win 7, just like the move from Win 2k to Win XP was.

36 posted on 01/07/2014 9:40:28 AM PST by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: RedWing9
I suppose then my question should have been "Why are you so mad that Microsoft didn't ask you if you wanted to keep the start button?"

Yes... it's all about ME now. I don't think you actually have concern over me and my supposed "anger." I think you just want to sell Win 8 and make it look less laughable.

And it is quite clear that the claimed "telemetry" that the "Microsoft Customer Experience Improvement Program" received showing that people weren't using the start button was horse puckey, based on the bashing they have received from all directions.

I have been installing MS products since before DOS 5, and I don't know of a single person who recommends to clients that they join the Customer Experience Improvement (ahem - spy on you) Program. So if they really did get this telemetry, perhaps it was from a "special" class of users. The kind who didn't know any better than to say no.

I want what I want because it's what I want for my own reasons. They question of "why" should not enter into the minds of the people who want my money. Every Windows 8 computer that is under my control has Classic Shell installed. And over 2000 people per day download it from SourceForge, which isn't even the primary source.

42 posted on 01/07/2014 10:00:37 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: RedWing9

When your only arguments for something are “It’s the newest thing”, “You can’t handle change” or “you just to dumb to understand” you know you have a dud.

See Soccer, Presta Valves, Obama, 2001: A Space Odyssey, for other examples


45 posted on 01/07/2014 10:17:09 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: RedWing9

I suppose then my question should have been “Why are you so mad that Microsoft didn’t ask you if you wanted to keep the start button?”


Because it’s symptomatic of their wrongheaded customer service philosophy. You don’t change for the sake of change, even if your telemetry tells you that you can. When you make decisions like that, you are going to have unforeseen consequences, since the telemetry can’t tell you that users still want the Start menu, even if they are not using it as much as they used to. You have to actually go out and get customer input to find that out, but MS doesn’t do much of that. They would rather try to force the users to use a product the way MS wants them to, than design a product around the way users want to use it.


51 posted on 01/07/2014 10:57:33 AM PST by Boogieman
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