Look through the windshield, you'll see the Flux capacitor lit up.
Posted on 12/13/2013 1:00:32 PM PST by Kevmo
Smoking Gun” of LENR: Fleischmann Project results duplicated in one Day, Celani cell verified as LENR device Published November 7, 2013 | By jennifer
TheMartin Fleischmann Memorial Project may have discovered the “smoking gun” of low energy nuclear reaction (LENR). The project’s blog is claiming that French scientist Jean-Paul Biberian independently replicated and confirmed one of its low energy nuclear reactions with less than 24 hours of work.
Two project researchers Mathieu Valat and Bob Greenyer were able to detect gamma pulses every time they filled a Celani Cell with deuterium and switched it on. Valat and Greenyer are so confident about their discovery that they discussed it on YouTube. They believe this is evidence of LENR, when Jean-Paul Biberian duplicated this experiment he was able to get a similar result.
Gamma Ray detection experiment with Celani Cell courtesy Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project
“Essentially it means that we have a device that is doing low energy nuclear reactions,” Greenyer said of the Celani Cell. Valat said the device can be turned on and off.
Could also Verify Ecat
The gamma ray emissions from the Project cells were similar to those Francesco Celani detected coming from a demonstration of Andrea Rossi’s Ecat in Bologna, Italy, in January 2011. Celani is the invetor of the Celani cells. Celani apparently detected a large emission of gamma rays from Rossi’s ecat. The amount of rays emitted actually exceeded the detection capability of the gamma ray detector Celani had with him. Celani and a colleague were so scared by this they were ready to leave the room fearing there was a radiation leak.
Instrument showing some of the Project's results courtesy Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project
The two were then told that Rossi had just turned on the ecat. Celani believes that this was a nuclear reaction. When he saw what they were doing, Rossi asked Celani to stop examining the reactor. Rossi was apparently afraid that Celani had figured out how the ecat worked and could learn how to duplicate his research.
That would seem to indicate that Greenyer, Valat, Celani and Biberian have been able to duplicate some of Rossi’s work. That seems to justify some of Rossi’s claims.
At the 18th Annual International Conference on Cold Fusion in August conference a government scientist asked Celani about this incident, Bob Greenyer said. The scientist wanted evidence of a reaction that could be used to demonstrate LENR. From this discussion Greenyer was prompted to look for gamma bursts in Celani cells by that combination.
Greenyer said that this might explain how LENR occurs. He believes a combination of pressures is causing the gamma emissions.
The Fleischmann project will need more advanced equipment and experiments to discover the cause of the reaction. In particular it will need a better gamma ray detector.
Greenyer admits that he doesn’t know what is causing the reaction. It could be pressure or shock related or both. Valat said that the project will need to do more research to determine the cause. The project will need more funding to purchase better instruments to detect and measure gamma emissions.
Some of that funding and research will come from EarthTech International a privately funded organization in Austin, Texas, that researches novel ideas in Physics. EarthTech’s Marissa Little said her organization wants to revisit LENR and work with the Fleischmann Project.
One of EarthTech’s missions is to explore excess energy claims about various technology. The Institute’s website specifically mentions cold fusion as one of the Excess Energy sources it is looking into and the terms Low Energy Nuclear Reaction and Chemically Assisted Nuclear Reaction.
It isn’t clear what EarthTech’s role will be yet. The Institute could try to duplicate the Celani Cell or simply examine the Fleischmann Project’s research or both.
It’s interesting to note that National Instruments the instrument manufacturer which is strongly supportive of LENR is also based in Austin. It isn’t clear whether EarthTech has a connection to National Instruments or not.
Still the news from the Fleischmann Project is exciting because it seems to verify Celani’s claims and Rossi’s. It’ll be interesting to see how Rossi and other researchers will react to this.
When can I have it for my car?
The ‘smoking gun’ is the light switch on my wall and it ain’t even warm right now.
I would love to see the original two guys get the credit for what they accomplished. They were laughed at for a long time. They deserved better IMO.
It would be great if this new replication holds up and is studied to the point they actually understand the process.
Look through the windshield, you'll see the Flux capacitor lit up.
now that is a good one. Will have to file for latter use….. still waiting for all those working machines that were supposed to be on line and functioning by then end of 2013.
Great Scott!
About years and $200 Billion before you can get it with hot fusion.
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So... this is an open source pure science venture and you are against it? That makes you anti-science, not just anti-LENR.
NO IT MAKES ME A SKEPTIC! After years and years of promises from we are this close to it will come on line in (Fill in the Blank) I am just a bit skeptical and if you aren’t then boy have I a deal for YOU!
Then do you log onto Hot Fusion threads to LOUDLY proclaim your skepticism of a technology that is 14 orders of magnitude more wasteful in terms of bang for the buck?
I doubt it. That means you are NOT A SKEPTIC! It means you are a Bandwagon Jumper!
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You can still have a new 1983 DeLorean built for you ... when the company shut down someone bought all the leftovers .. but they’re crappy cars .. cramped , slow , goofy styling with the nose in the air, and the insurance is sky high because of the brushed stainless skin ... always looks bad with waterspots and if you get into the smallest of fender benders then you have to replace panels or paint the entire car as you can’t do a metal repair and repaint an area like a normal car.
>> “I am just a bit skeptical and if you aren’t then boy have I a deal for YOU!” <<
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Is it anything like the ‘deal’ LRL has had for the past 38 years, pushing first magnetic, then laser induced fusion to the tune of over 600 billion dollars, and yet nothing whatsoever to show for it?
What does the acronym LRL stand for?
Lawrence Livermore Radiation Laboratory.
$600B??? That’s twice what I thought it was.
There are two kinds of skeptic...rational/scientific and pathological. The first variety examines data and makes a decision based on it. The pathological sort has done no examination of evidence, refuses to do any, but has an unswayable negative opinion on the topic.
There have been MANY of the second sort on these LENR threads. I have yet to see any of the first type.
So tell us, what evidence have you studied???
They spent B-200 on Nova alone, trying to duplicate what Kip Seagal was able to do with his $10,000 Army surplus laser and a few prisms at Ann Arbor in ‘73.
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