Who is Jesus Christ and Who is Irrational? (Mike Adams)

clashdaily.com ^ | 12-4-2013 | Mike Adams

[OneVike]

Apology accepted, and I extend the same to you for my, as you put it, my snark response.

It is a character flaw that I try to reign in, usually with little success.

Thank God He is greater than I am and forgave me long before I was a glimmer in my parents eyes.

[redleghunter]

The bottom line is, if someone such as myself, who examines carefully the message of the gospel and then says, “thanks, but no thanks, I honestly don’t believe it,” the result (assuming the Bible is true) is that I will be tortured beyond our ability to comprehend forever without end. I find that impossible to reconcile with the notion of an infinitely loving God. That’s one reason why I have so much trouble believing it.

Do you reject the Bible because it tells us if we reject God we are punished? Or do you reject the Bible because you don't believe it is authentic?

If you believe the message of Salvation is authentic but reject it, then that is akin to that sinking ship and someone offering you to come in the life boat but you refuse.

[ShadowAce]

I find that impossible to reconcile with the notion of an infinitely loving God. That’s one reason why I have so much trouble believing it.

God is Truth--if you reject Truth, then you reject God. It is you making the choice of where to go--not Him.

[Elsie]

Not if they don’t believe in who that scripture comes from.

It seems to me they want to be 100% sure of the origin as well as the Subject of scripture before they'll put their faith in it.

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But then one would claim, "That's not FAITH; but KNOWLEDGE."

[Elsie]

...they want to be 100% sure ...

Strangely; this requirement is not enforced in other areas of their life.

[Elsie]

I> I find that impossible to reconcile with the notion of an infinitely loving God.

Just where on earth did you get an idea that GOD is infinitely loving?

[Elsie]

You are forgiven. Go and sin no more...

/sarc

[Elsie]

If it were not for snarks; I’d hunt nothing.

[OneVike]

I need to correct my glaring mistake of claiming that Buddha may have been influenced by a Christian traveler.

I looked over the information I have and realized my glaring error in that Buddha lived some 500 years or so before God entered the world as the incarnate Christ.

He was more likely influenced by a Jewish traveler or even a Jewish slave maybe.

Now you all will inevitably hear and read about the Jewish and Christian religions being influenced by Buddha. However, the very idea is laughable since God gave Moses the law some 800 years before Buddha was born. So it would be impossible for him to influence the Jewish religion that existed for hundreds of years already.

In fact if the information gleaned from a copy of Buddhist Scriptures, belonging to the leading Buddhist teacher of ChiangMai Province in Thailand, is correct then it would seem that Buddha may have even believed that a Holy One would be born one day that would be the savior of mankind.(image from book below)

Buddha Prophesized about Jesus (Yeshua)

It is also the understanding of some that Buddha's understanding of the Holy One was influenced by Jewish teachings.

At that, I will leave it and allow you all to do your own investigation into the matter.

[Lucas McCain]

Try 1 John 4:8.

[Lucas McCain]

“God is Truth—if you reject Truth, then you reject God. It is you making the choice of where to go—not Him.”

Yes, yes, that’s very helpful. Thank you very much. All is resolved. I feel much better now (rolling eyes).

[ShadowAce]

Hey—you’re the one trying to pin the damning on God.

[Elsie]

I predict that in a hundred years my children will rule the earth.

[Elsie]

He was more likely influenced by a Jewish traveler or even a Jewish slave maybe.

I'd give credit to the Tower of Babel.

They all KNEW the Story; just re-told it in different languages.

[Elsie]

OK...

1 John 4:8

Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

So; are you saying that you believe THIS; but not the other?

[Lucas McCain]

Imagine that you have a child (possibly you do). Your son is somehow errant. He has committed some “crime” for which he refuses to repent of.

Could you, or any decent parent, take a belt or a stick and whip him endlessly? And then claim he damned himself? That he had a choice but rejected your offer of forgiveness? So he deserved to be beaten hour after hour, day after day? And then call yourself a loving parent?

We put parents like that in prison.

[Elsie]

He warned Adam - “You will die”

...and the rest is history.

[Lucas McCain]

I’m saying that the message of the Bible is inconsistent (dare I say contradictory?). And as such is difficult to believe.

A loving parent would not punish her child endlessly (And you in the peanut gallery, skip the stuff about how God doesn’t do the punishing, it’s getting old).

[ShadowAce]

As a parent, you warned him. You said that if he performed the "crime" in question, s/he would get a beating.

What kind of parent would you be if you said afterwards--"oh, well, I didn't mean it."

Don't forget--the "crime" we are speaking of here is NOT isolated sin here and there. We all commit those. The "crime" we are talking about is outright rejection of you as his parent. Refusal to listen to your teaching. Refusal to accept your discipline. Refusal to have anything to do with you. So--you kick him out. You banish him to a place where you are not. You let him experience his error without any more shielding.

[ShadowAce]

A loving parent would not punish her child endlessly...

As I said before--God is not the one doing the punishing.