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Could Alzheimer’s be Type 2 diabetes? Scientists claim extra insulin produced by those…
Mail on Sunday (UK) ^ | 17:36 EST, 1 December 2013 | Lizzie Edmonds and Sophie Borland

Posted on 12/01/2013 8:34:08 PM PST by Olog-hai

Alzheimer’s and diabetes may be the same disease, scientists claim.

They have uncovered evidence that the debilitating form of dementia may be late stages of type 2 diabetes.

The discovery would explain why nearly three quarters of patients with this form of diabetes go on to develop Alzheimer’s.

Researchers from Albany University, New York State, believe the excess insulin they produce gets into the brain and disrupts key chemicals.

Eventually masses of amyloid proteins—which poison brain cells—are created because of the excess which leads to Alzheimers, they say. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: alzheimers; diabetes; type2diabetes
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Could Alzheimer’s be Type 2 diabetes? Scientists claim extra insulin produced by those with disease disrupts brain chemistry
I vote for yet another misdiagnosis.
1 posted on 12/01/2013 8:34:08 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Have to agree. I too vote for yet another misdiagnosis till someone can say why blood sugar levels do not indicate Type 2 diabetes.
2 posted on 12/01/2013 8:42:03 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Olog-hai

“However, as many people with Type 2 are obese and therefore have shorter life-expectancies, little research has been conducted.”

Their anecdotal evidence is that people with type 2 tend to be obese and they feel type 2 is linked to Alzheimer’s?
Okay I’ll match my anecdotal evidence to theirs, I have been closely associated with several people with Alzheimer’s, mainly my grandmother and she was neither overweight or diabetic so I call B.S. Anyone else wanna make a corollary based on anecdotal evidence?


3 posted on 12/01/2013 8:47:08 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Olog-hai

guess they’re not selling enough alzheimer medicine.


4 posted on 12/01/2013 8:51:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Olog-hai

“believe the excess insulin they produce “

I thought the problem with diabetes type 2 is that people do NOT produce enough insulin.


5 posted on 12/01/2013 9:02:49 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

You are exactly correct.

Diabetes is insulin deficiency and/or resistance.

Diabetics have insulin levels that are typically low and sugar levels that are abnormally high.

The article does not make sense.


6 posted on 12/01/2013 9:06:08 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

This would certainly argue for people with type 2 diabetes to treat it without using insulin, or taking drugs like glyburide that cause the body to make more insulin. That doesn’t leave much for people who suffer from extreme type 2 diabetes. They can stay on and Atkin’s diet, and take Metformin.


7 posted on 12/01/2013 9:06:19 PM PST by pallis
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To: Olog-hai

The more people they can diagnose with dementia, the more people they can shuffle into holding cells and on to euthanasia.


8 posted on 12/01/2013 9:11:32 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Hardraade

Bingo!

The whole medical and med research professions are being subverted to achieve political and social engineering goals.

These are goals which, if they were actually stated for what they are would almost certainly cause immediate revolution. So they are being couched in studies and journals that few will ever read.


9 posted on 12/01/2013 9:15:33 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

The title is dumb.

You could argue diabetes (either type) could be a triggering factor in Alzheimer’s. Excess sugars floating around in the blood cause all kinds of traffic backup. Especially in finer pathways, which is why the eye doctor is a great predictor of disease.


10 posted on 12/01/2013 9:16:51 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Innovative

After thinking for a bit, I’m wondering if they don’t mean “ketones” rather than “insulin.”

If a diabetic has repeated episodes of DKA there is the danger of cerebral edema and resultant brain damage.

Either way, I think the article is poorly written, if not outright BS.


11 posted on 12/01/2013 9:19:12 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Olog-hai
I have only known a couple of people who had Alzheimer’s and they were all thin and none had diabetes of either type.

But what do I know.

12 posted on 12/01/2013 9:21:24 PM PST by Ditter
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“I thought the problem with diabetes type 2 is that people do NOT produce enough insulin.”

Not necessarily. Type 2 Diabetes is a symptom of other underlying problems. Something like 25% of Type 2 Diabetics have an autoimmune problem, wherein the cells misidentify the glucose molecules as pathogens to be kept out of the cells like bad viruses. This leaves the cells starving for food, the blood overloaded with blood sugars, and heightened insulin levels attempting to force thee cells to overcome the cellular resistance to the glucose. Other Type 2 diabetes symptoms are caused by problems with the adrenal gland/s, thyroid, liver, and more. Unfortunately for diabetics, it is a rare physician who will attempt to identify and correct the undderlying problem causing the Type 2 diabetic symptoms. Instead, they keep on trying to stimulate more production of insulin from the pancreas until it fails and/or go directly to supplying injections of insulin. Such treatments with more insuling causes more inflammation and damage in a spiral towards final failure, unless the underlying cause can be treated.


13 posted on 12/01/2013 9:32:00 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: ToastedHead

We know that drusen, alzheimers, diabetic retinopathy are all related. The article is quite interesting.


14 posted on 12/01/2013 9:35:08 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: WhiskeyX

“Unfortunately for diabetics, it is a rare physician who will attempt to identify and correct the underlying problem causing the Type 2 diabetic symptoms”

Thanks for the explanation.

The current medical approach to “treating” diabetes — the symptom — rather than the cause seems quite primitive considering we are in the 21st century.


15 posted on 12/01/2013 9:36:32 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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And I have been associated with many that had type 2 diabetes and lived into their 90’s with no Alzheimer's or dementia.
16 posted on 12/01/2013 9:36:42 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: Olog-hai
A cursory search showed articles about the connection between amyloid and glycated proteins; e.g., Glycation induces formation of amyloid cross-beta structure in albumin..

Glycation leads to advanced glycation end products (AGEs) and appears to be more and more tied to many of the worse diseases including most of the diseases associated with aging.

It is caused by a haphazard bonding of sugar with protein and has been known that one cause is browning (cooking) our food. Recently it's been discovered that it happens in our bodies too.

There are way of prying the sugar off the proteins and preventing this unwanted bonding. We can begin by watching our diet.

Of course I will defer to the experts. I have no training in biochemistry but I find it fascinating that we are mere trillions of chemical reactions. (Physically at least.)

17 posted on 12/01/2013 10:08:50 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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I personally find it fascinating that we have what amounts to more complex “computer code” than any human coder can devise literally written into our DNA. It’s even written into enzymes. Scientists appending their email addresses into bacterial DNA is merely scratching the surface of what’s there.


18 posted on 12/01/2013 10:16:52 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

ping


19 posted on 12/02/2013 1:27:33 AM PST by gattaca ("If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain)
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To: Innovative

Type 1 is when you cannot produce insulin.

Type 2 is when you produce insulin, but your body’s cells are resistant to it’s signal. Then you overcompensate by producing even more insulin.


20 posted on 12/02/2013 1:56:18 AM PST by Royal Wulff
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