Posted on 12/01/2013 12:13:11 PM PST by ziravan
I have a question/observation. The deductibles and co-pays combined with restrictive networks make Obamacare one of the WORST groups of insurance products to come out in history. The redistributive elements of the program make it literally a scam for the majority of users.
Yet, the Administration is out there touting it as "high-quality" insurance and everything else as "substandard".
Why aren't the GOP challenging this? Shouldn't they be out there using the meme that, in fact, Obamacare is Substandard Insurance.
2nd observation: Why is the GOP letting the dems get away with referring to a federal coercion as a "marketplace" full of "consumers"? Why aren't they using the meme "hijacked health care system" full of "middle class hostages"?
Because the “Establishment GOP”, the guys who define the GOP message for the talking heads, want the same government involvement in health care.
THERE IS NOT A DIME’S WORTH OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEMOCRATIC AND GOP ESTABLISHMENT.
you have DIRT Cheap and 10 levels lower you have Obamacare
It’s not just substandard. It’s overpriced substandard.
above: “reading a few articles”. Sorry.
I’ve had insurance since I was 18 in the military. Currently, I’m on my employer’s “cheap” plan which means $1000 co pay (instead of $500) and 3,000 yearly max per person/6,000 per family (instead of 1.5/3k)
25$ co pays to see doctor, $35 for specialist and $20/$10 Brand/Generic for prescriptions.
My share of the cost for me, my wife, and 5 dependents is $260/month, although my employer has said that next years rates are coming out this week and they needed to warn us ahead of time that it’ll be steep.
My point is that even if I considered Obamacare’s Gold Plan, that would be vastly substandard insurance for me (and the price point for unsubsidized me is 500% higher, I looked). I bet the same could be said for most people with a history of buying health insurance products.
The GOP ought to be able to point out comparable policies to highlight the fact that Obamacare is, in fact, the substandard insurance product. It just seems to me that THIS is the way to argue against this substandard government plan.
Yes, but you can get a sex change operation FOR FREE!!
That is the crap being subsidized.
Very good points
Just another gov’t wealth theft scheme.
This is all about building a solid majority that will always pull the lever for the democrats. They reinforce this strategy by keeping their campaign apparatus going through the liberal use of ACA grants.
ObamaCare (ACA cancelled his old plan) offers to my adult 20 year old SON -
Mammograms
birth control pills
Maternity Care
OB/Gyn check ups
Pediatric Vision
Pediatric Dental
for double the old price of the old policy that we bought because WE LIKED IT!
and free abortions too
Correct! Go to www.healthsherpa.com and you can read all the subsidies for the deadbeats, on Hussein Care
BTTT
“The GOP ought to be able to point out comparable policies to highlight the fact that Obamacare is, in fact, the substandard insurance product”
You would think but they are cowards, weasels and most of them want this anyway! (IMO)
Short answer: the only thing more stupid than a Democrat politician, is a Republican politician.
Obamacare, of course, has nothing to do with health care. The number one goal is redistribution of income. Goal number two is enhancing the power of the Democrat crime machine. Hence the subsidies, automatic Medicaid signup, and irrational sweetners aimed a specific special interest groups. The Republicans have done nothing to counter these features which represent poison pills to the majority of voters. I suspect that is because most Republicans are profoundly ignorant of the details of the law. They scream and shout “Repeal”, but do nothing to destroy this thing piece by worthless piece.
You got it RIGHT on ALL POINTS!
"President Obama has offered no solutions to help the millions of American families who are losing the good health care plans that they liked," Scalise said. "This hollow press conference was like a person who burned down your house, later showing up with an empty bucket and talking about how inadequate your house was before the fire. President Obama blatantly misled the American people when he kept promising they could keep plans they liked even though he and his Administration knew three years ago that millions would lose their health care under this law. It is time for President Obama to admit his broken health care law has failed, and join with House Republicans to suspend the penalties and stop this train wreck before it's too late."
Where, oh where has the GOPe been?
“Why aren’t the GOP challenging this? “
“Shouldn’t they be out there using the meme that, in fact, Obamacare is Substandard Insurance.”
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The GOP leaders need to stand in front of the steps of the Capitol Bdg and state what THEIR plan(s) are for healthcare and say it convincingly.
Tax-free Health Savings Accounts, Tort Reform, the ability to sell insurance policies across state lines etc.
Just saying Obamacare sucks (which it does) is not going to cut it.
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