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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 48 NOVEMBER 29, 2013
11/29/13 | greeneyes

Posted on 11/29/2013 3:57:22 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: Marcella
Yes, but I'm not starting anything else until late January.

All the broccoli and celery and carrots and cabbage and stuff is already outside in the ground under the cold frame.

/johnny

181 posted on 12/03/2013 4:18:48 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
I live in Massachusetts, so I won't be starting my seeds until mid to late March. Last season I wasn't able to get everything together on time, so my plants were way behind.

I will have my trays and little pots on the kitchen table. There simply isn't any other space that receives good sunlight, except in the living room, which is out of the question. They're also right there in the middle of everything, where I can tend to and keep a constant eye on them.

The kitchen is on the south side of the house, thank goodness. I will have to buy my rosemary plants, but everything else will be from seed.

182 posted on 12/03/2013 4:19:39 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes

Beet root juice? I didn’t know that. I’ll have to try that. Thanks!


183 posted on 12/03/2013 4:21:01 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham; greeneyes
The inside of my house is dark. It's a townhouse and there are no windows on the two long sides. There is one window in the kitchen facing west and I have a metal rack thing in front of that window that holds pots and skillets. Anyway, practically no sun gets in that window.

I had to go to the grow light and stand to get seeds to sprout inside.

I'm jealous of greeneyes as I think she grows a winter garden in her basement. We don't have basements here. Digging in our dirt that far down gets you a lake seeping into a basement.

184 posted on 12/03/2013 4:53:22 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

I hear you. Unless you’re in an end unit townhouses can be very dark. We have a basement, but with my bad knee I try to avoid stairs, and thus the kitchen table option. Grow lights are a good choice for those of us who have limited sunlight.


185 posted on 12/03/2013 5:20:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Marcella

Regarding your southern weather. Are you bragging or complaining?LOL You could just take off during your winter season and sip tea with scones or something.

I am jealous that you have such nice weather during the winter - we have to do indoor gardens because it is too cold to do much out doors.

If you figured out a different place for hanging your pots and pans, you could get a lot of use out of the west facing window in the kitchen. Lots of herb plants etc.


186 posted on 12/03/2013 5:34:04 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

See post 186.


187 posted on 12/03/2013 5:34:59 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham

Yep do it raw. Cooking renders it not effective.


188 posted on 12/03/2013 5:35:44 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Thank you!


189 posted on 12/03/2013 5:47:10 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes

I am crunched in this townhouse for space. That is the only place that white metal unit will to go hold my pots and skillets and other items I use. I have to have them up where I can reach them. My upper cabinets are stuffed as is and the problem is, I can’t bend down to those lower cabinets to get anything out. The one I would need wouldn’t be right there to quickly get it out, and I can’t stoop to stay down there.

Hmm, what I am thinking now is I have that new kneeling thingy that makes it easy for me to get down and get up. I won’t move that tall metal thing with the pots and pans, etc, but I can now get down to those cabinets to see what is in them. I haven’t gotten anything out of those lower cabinets in years because I couldn’t.


190 posted on 12/03/2013 6:23:00 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; rightly_dividing; sockmonkey; Nepeta; Silentgypsy; ApplegateRanch; ...

I keep thinking of things to ask you guys.

I have a long thin (maybe 6-7 inches across and 4 ft. long) planter that will be empty in spring. Those planters were in one picture I posted on here. My question is this, I can plant several herbs in one of those but are there certain herbs you wouldn’t want to plant next to each other?

You know I don’t know much about herbs and using them so I don’t know if they like to be planted next to some and not others. Maybe they hate certain ones. I studied human behavior for many years so I know why Johnny is (((strange))), but I don’t know herb behavior. Let me know if I shouldn’t plant “x” next to “x”.

Just so you know, I can never be tested to see if I am nuts because I know all the answers to the psychological tests as I gave them for many years. (I can be bribed to give you the answers.) :o)


191 posted on 12/03/2013 6:35:48 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
Others can speak to which likes what, I will say that there are annuals and perinnials. Plant one or the other in the planter. I keep the rosemary, oregano, and thyme together, and the stuff I have to replant every year like cilantro and basil gets moved around.

/johnny

192 posted on 12/03/2013 7:17:25 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
I'm not strange. I'm eccentric. It's a feature, not a bug.

/johnny

193 posted on 12/03/2013 7:18:16 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks, I copied that to plant those three together and to know basil and cilantro are annuals.

I didn’t know basil and cilantro are annuals - I don’t know much about herbs. If they are annuals and I couldn’t get the plants from a store every year, I would need the seeds which I don’t have. Rats.

I think Mexican hot sauce with Cilantro in it is so fine.

It’s a matter of semantics - strange = eccentric. You are interesting to me because you are (((different))).


194 posted on 12/03/2013 7:33:45 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
I save seeds every year for cilantro and basil. They will self-propogate if you grow them in the same place every year.

/johnny

195 posted on 12/03/2013 7:36:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
A word about me and cilantro. I HAVE to have it. Period. It's not up for discussion. It would be very, very bad if I didn't have cilantro for my hot sauce that I make.

I have some alive in the cold frame now.

/johnny

196 posted on 12/03/2013 7:38:32 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

There are many different basils. You will probably want the classic basil used in Italian cooking, and at least one other kind. I say at least one, because basil is easily to start and makes attractive plants—I would grow a dozen kinds if I had the space. You can give away extra seedlings. The only thing you need to do once the plant is growing in its permanent place (they transplant readily) is keep snipping off the top so it does not form flowers and seeds, and so the plant will be bushier. The purple forms are fun to grow.


197 posted on 12/03/2013 7:50:57 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: JRandomFreeper
A word about me and cilantro. I HAVE to have it.

Have you ever grown culantro? It's an unrelated, completely different-looking plant, but has the same flavor as cilantro.
198 posted on 12/03/2013 7:56:46 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: Nepeta
I've bought and used basil in 20 lb flats when I was in the food business. I'm familiar with the types and uses. ;)

For me, I grow the type I have, because it does well here. It's a traditional greek-style basil. I do let it go to seed every year. Basil and cilantro get moved around in the yard every year, depending on many factors, so leaving it in one spot isn't going to happen here.

/johnny

199 posted on 12/03/2013 7:59:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Nepeta
Have you ever grown culantro?

No. I'm very conservative in what I grow, and grow only what I use regularly. I only grow roma tomatoes. I know there are many other types out there, some that are better for some things than the romas, but that's what I grow from year to year for a good general purpose tomato. I don't experiment much.

/johnny

200 posted on 12/03/2013 8:03:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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