And So It Begins: New York City Sending Out Gun Confiscation Notices

The Truth About Guns ^ | Nov 27, 2013 | Robert Farago

[Kip Russell]

New York’s SAFE Act is a bad, bad thing. It requires people to register, sell or transfer (out of state) “assault rifles” and “high capacity” magazines. Many Empire State gun and standard capacity ammunition magazine owners have complied. Many have not. So, at some point, the State’s gonna go get ‘em. People on both sides of the law enforcement divide will die and the s will hit the fan. Meanwhile, there it is: the reason why expanded background checks, indeed all background checks and any type of registration, set the stage for confiscation. And tyranny.

[Prole]

...And what happens to the Americans who refuse to obey these Stalinists?

[struggle]

All that over a Marlin .22? Lol

[Revelation 911]

Kip - this seems to be an NYC only thingy - and cites a different code

just sayin -

and yes....the safe act is crap

[subterfuge]

Trial run for the whole country.

[Lazamataz]

This would be the bridge too far for me. I would end up dead.

[Kip Russell]

...And what happens to the Americans who refuse to obey these Stalinists?

They get arrested. And since legal gun in NYC is registered, they know exactly where to find them.

[Kip Russell]

Kip - this seems to be an NYC only thingy - and cites a different cod

Yes, now that I look at it the headline of the article should read "NYC", not "NY". If any mod would like to correct it, that would be cool.

[JoeDetweiler]

Hmmm....seems like someone could make some money setting up a reliable storage facility out-of-state.

New York can’t regulate property in Wyoming.

[Roccus]

...And what happens to the Americans who refuse to obey these Stalinists?

The cops show up at your door to confiscate the "illegal" weapons. Happened to a friend who lived on Staten Island in the 90s. His wife had failed to renew the registration on his long guns on time.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, 1918-1956

[Kip Russell]

Trial run for the whole country.

20 to 50 years away...but yes. I expect "Canada" levels of gun control within the next few decades at the national level, and "UK" levels by the end of the 21st Century.

[tgusa]

Molon labe. This is only one reason why I have turned down work in NY.

[Huskrrrr]

“And while we’re at it, pal, we’ll confiscate that jumbo soft drink as well.”

[BenLurkin]

Registration is a necessary precursor to confiscation.

[V_TWIN]

At first glance I’m not sure how they intend to enforce this. looks like it has some holes in it to me.

[DJ MacWoW]

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust their people with arms." James Madison

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[Kip Russell]

Hmmm....seems like someone could make some money setting up a reliable storage facility out-of-state. New York can’t regulate property in Wyoming.

If you plan on moving out of NY in the next few years, such a facility would be useful. If you don't...what's the point? (my guns are locked up 2,000 miles away where no one will ever fire or even see them...yay!)

The vast majority of NYC gun owners who receive such letters will either sell their forbidden firearms out-of-state, or turn them in.

[Kip Russell]

At first glance I’m not sure how they intend to enforce this. looks like it has some holes in it to me.

Since these are registered guns...

1. Send out a letter such as the one in the OP.
2. If the gun owner doesn't comply after a short time (say, a month), contact him again and explain that if he doesn't comply, he will be in violation of the law.
3. Shortly thereafter, show up at his doorstep (with a SWAT team as backup) and order him to turn over his property.
4. If he resists, kill him.

[Above My Pay Grade]

That notice is from New York City, not New York State.

The 5 round maximum has nothing to do with the NYS unSafe Act. That was the ridiclous law in New York City prior to Emperor Cuomo’s unSafe Act. Outside of NYC you can have big, scary 10 round magazines (up from 7 rounds in the original version of the unSafe Act) but can only load 7 rounds, except at a shooting range.

Henry sells 5 round magazines (standard is 8 rounds) for the AR-7, so the gun owner who received that notice should be able to make it NYC legal, if it is not already.

From what I can tell the Marlin 25N comes with a 7 round mag, which is no good in NYC. Pretty ridiculous that a much higher powered semi-auto with a 5 round mag (like a Mini-14 Ranch Rifle) is legal, but a 22 bolt action that holds 7 is not.