Posted on 11/22/2013 8:54:29 PM PST by ReformationFan
Good cartoon(see link). The JFK of 1960-1963 wouldn't even be able to win the democratic party nomination for dog catcher with the communists who run it today.
I became aware of an interesting story juat now.
This is a link to it for some comments.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/lounge/108316-my-dad-lee-harvey.html
That graphic says it perfectly! A lot of FReepers who love to badmouth Kennedy don’t know what he really believed. His conservative fiscal position alone would place him right in the middle of the Tea Party today, not to mention his pro-life and strongly religious beliefs.
If JFK were ressurected today, he’d probably be pleased to see a black man in the White House. But as soon as he found out what that black man believes and has done, he’d wish he were dead again.
JFK was a 1960 lefty, anti-American who wanted to replace the American people and it’s culture with third world foreigners, even deadlier and more incompetent than Jimmy Carter on foreign affairs.
He unionized the federal government and emptied the mental hospitals.
Here are Reagan’s private thoughts on JFK-””One last thought,— shouldn’t some one tag Mr. Kennedy’s bold new imaginative program with it’s proper age? Under the tousled boyish hair cut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago. There is nothing new in the idea of a Govt. being Big Brother to us all. Hitler called his “State Socialism” and way before him it was “benevolent monarchy.””
Interesting. That stated, I still bet today’s democratic party would not consider him communistic enough for them.
That isn’t the way it works.
JFK would be an excellent democratic candidate today, he would not dress and talk, and campaign, as a thawed out, frozen man, from the 1950s.
JFK:
He was by no means perfect,but he was by no means a leftist.
JFK wasn’t pro-life and wasn’t religious, he was actually the most truly, and thoroughly, depraved man, to ever be president, no aspect of his life was not corrupt and dishonest.
JFK got us into a Vietnam war, and one of his life’s goals, replacing the American people, was passed in his memory, it was called the 1965 Immigration Act, and we can never recover from it.
You seem to have drank his kool-aid.
At least he was a Christian instead of a Muslim!
Yes, he got us into Vietnam - against Communism. The stalemate way the war was run was LBJ's doing. We will never know how JFK would have run it.
That leaves us with an immigration bill written and passed after his death "in his memory". Reagan had an immigration bill, too. Was he anti-American?
It would be outlandish for a politician, even the kookiest leftwinger to make any kind of speech or stand.
But if pressed, JFK at the time would certainly be against both concepts.
Had he lived, though, I would wager that he would have "evolved" into a social liberal, much like Ted Kennedy did.
Whoa there democrat worship man, you stated matter of factly that JFK was pro-life, the man who lived an almost daily routine of quickies with strangers, hookers, and in affairs, yet with no illegitimate children, and at least one claim that he had one aborted. When was the despicable JFK talking about being pro-life in public?
You are the only guy that I think I have ever heard, that supported the insane and destructive decision to start a war in Vietnam, it had a disastrous result on America.
Immigration was JFK’s baby, he even wrote a book on it, and his immigration goals were passed almost immediately after his death, signed into law less than two years after he was shot.
Nice dig at Reagan who was trying to restrict and restrain immigration, the romneybots always go after Reagan, also.
It is easy to see the drug addicted, sick and perverted, womanizer and exploiter of women, being a social liberal, you sure pegged that right, JFK was not a social conservative then, and he sure wouldn’t be standing up as one today.
He was in Dallas that day to shore up support in the south for his re-election where one would naturally be pro-business, pro-economy - hardly surprising. Even Obama has been know to say one thing, do another.
•Was a staunch opponent of socialism and communism. He began our involvement in Vietnam to support fighting back Communism's spread in Asia. Would he have played for stalemate like LBJ - we will never know.
And, there are a lot of liberals out there that claim to this day one of the reasons he was killed because he was on the verge of pulling out of Viet Nam. Some even believe that this is why LBJ and the MIC had him killed. Or because he betrayed Cuban freedom fighters and the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion. Crazy theories all round.
•Was pro-life and publicly based his stance on his religious faith.
His party certainly wasn't/isn't. Must be why there isn't a whole lot of concrete data on the subject with any specificity.
•Showed national pride and belief in American exceptionalism. Space race, anyone?
Yes, and which President spoke with the astronauts on the moon? This President (along with LBJ) continued Kennedy's dream into reality.
By today's standards, Kennedy would certainly be a lesser of two evils Democrat with, say, Hillary or Obama - or Clinton. That doesn't make him Ronald Reagan by any stretch. Add to that a total lechery and hinted drug use (because of his back?),nepotism (RFK) and a questionable election via the auspices of his father and gangland (union?) Chicago and it isn't the pretty Camelot picture the media so loves to paint. If one wanted to see the 'real Camelot' he need only review the life of Ted Kennedy.
The media, even today, is still pining for a Camelot that never was. A dream they crafted after his death. And there are many out there that are more than willing to ascribe after-death events to Kennedy's 'vision' with great reverence and zeal.
JFK was a fiscal conservative who did understand the need for tax cuts to stimulate an economy. He acted on that - it was not just campaign rhetoric.
A little balance.
“A little balance” ROTFL.
Balance is not participating in the total half century of mythologizing the left’s fake hero, JFK.
Reagan was trying to fix Kennedy’s immigration war on America, not duplicate it.
Kennedy wasn’t addressing any immigration issue, he was trying to deliver the fatal blow to America that he succeeded in doing, without it the left could never have come to own America.
“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”
Of course he was not the President who spoke with the astronauts on the moon. He wouldn't have been the President then if he lived out his two terms.
Do you deny his vision, based on national pride and to counter the USSR's Sputnik achievement, was the driving force in our space race? Did Obama get bin Laden or was it the completion of a decade long mission put into place by Bush?
Even though I would vote against him, there are a few policy issues and national sentiment ideals I can agree with JFK on. I cannot say the same for Obama, Reid or Pelosi.
His tax cuts were crap. Startng NASA and initiating the mission to the moon was a waste. Staving off the spread of Communism in his time useless.
The politics of Viet Nam ranged from genuine ideals that people should be free all the way to the idea that America wanted to show the Chinese and Russians that it would fight a prolonged, unwinnable war. The matter is moot now, except for the legacy that the United States now is entirely comfortable fighting wars it hasn’t the will to win.
I do not deny he was not as bad as Democrat Presidents that followed him. Likewise, I am certainly not persuaded of his greatness based on less than three years as president.
The media has long been disposed to hide the peccadillos of Democrat Presidents from Roosevelt to Obama. In the case of Kennedy, they seek to make him King. My point is that he was nothing extraordinary at all and I, for one, will not perpetuate the myth.
You left out the most important part, a Muslim TERRORIST.
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