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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 47 NOVEMBER 22, 2013
Free Republic | November 22, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 11/22/2013 12:40:12 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: JRandomFreeper; greeneyes
Johnny, I know you may be at a Thanksgiving dinner, but when you get back, talk to me about making wine from grapes. I'm looking on Burpee at the grape below. If they could stand the heat on the back or side lattice (the side lattice doesn't get the blasting direct sun like the back wall does and the back wall on the left side isn't as bad as the right back wall. I could plant grapes on the left back wall and the side lattice there. It says full sun for these grapes. This would be buying two plants, not seed.

So, how complicated is it to make grape wine? Tell me what you know in some detail, don't just say “It's not hard.” Or, “It's hard.” I want to know how you do it. If I order these by Sunday, it's free shipping.

Grape, Marquette

Zone: 5-8

Sun: Full Sun

Height: 4-10 feet

Spread: 8-10 feet

Resistant To: Cold, Disease

Ability to withstand the harmful effects of other organisms (deer, diseases) or adverse growing conditions (drought, heat, cold, wind).

201 posted on 11/28/2013 11:50:49 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
It's not hard. Romans were doing it 2000 years ago.

Making good wine? That's hard.

Sugar plus yeast = alcohol.

At a minimum (the Roman way) you need something to crush the grapes (they used slaves) and something to store the fermentable mess in until it ferments. Then you will need something to store it in like amphora or plastic jugs when you decant the wine from the must.

That's the minimum. To make good wine is beyond my scope in instruction. I can make fermentables that will make you drunk, but they might hurt you the next day.

/johnny

202 posted on 11/28/2013 1:21:42 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella; greeneyes

Of course, I spent time today putting up lights. It was quite an effort. I'll bet it took me 37 seconds, not counting plugging the lights in.

/johnny

203 posted on 11/28/2013 5:50:46 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Your lights:

I am amazed you would go to the trouble of such an intricate lighting display. How on earth did you know which strand to cross with another strand to form that extravaganza?

This is the first year I can remember that I didn't have to cook a Thanksgiving dinner. Last year the ultra liberal sister-in-law and husband came and I had baked Cornish Game Hens glazed in Apricot sauce, wild rice, dressing and home made whole cranberry sauce, and cold asparagus dripped on top with honey mustard dressing.

One time some years ago, a gentleman came to our house for dinner and I made those Game Hens and later he said he dripped some of the Apricot sauce on his shirt and later licked it off because it was so fine. I use a French jar of Apricot Preserves and it's not anything like our US thin crappy Apricot Preserves.

So, what did I have this time by myself? A Hungry Man frozen turkey dinner. It even had some cranberry something in one of the sections.

204 posted on 11/28/2013 6:11:58 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: JRandomFreeper; Marcella
At a minimum (the Roman way) you need something to crush the grapes (they used slaves)

You tinker around building things. Could you build something that crushes grapes, powered by squirrels? I think Marcella could put it to good use.

205 posted on 11/28/2013 6:13:36 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey
You are soooo clever. I hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
206 posted on 11/28/2013 6:16:27 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
So, what did I have this time by myself? A Hungry Man frozen turkey dinner. It even had some cranberry something in one of the sections.

I bought a Marie Callendar's roasted turkey tv dinner..oh, wait, they don't call them tv dinners anymore. I ate leftover pizza instead, and spent the day unpacking Christmas stuff, and started decorating.

207 posted on 11/28/2013 6:25:25 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Marcella
I had a can of chili and a couple of slices of home-made bread.

As for the lighting, it's just a natural talent. I took it out of the box, wadded it up, and hung it up on the hook. That's how single guys decorate. ;)

/johnny

208 posted on 11/28/2013 6:26:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella

Marcella,
My Dad, a tinkerer, built a contraption, aka, squirrel trap/guillotine.
When they went in to get a pecan...oops. I would hide it, break it try to chase the squirrels away from it.

So finally, he quit using it..then he built the squirrel trap drown-o-matic..I also would hide, break, and try to shoo the squirrels away from that one.


209 posted on 11/28/2013 6:31:03 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey
Squirrel guillotine. Interesting. Maybe I should build a squirrel trebouchet. ;)

/johnny

210 posted on 11/28/2013 6:43:53 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Maybe I should build a squirrel trebouchet.

Yes, and Rube Goldberg it up so it will make a cool youtube video. Also, if your trebouchet launches the squirrels all the way to Marcella's where at a certain altitude, their squirrel parachutes deploy, allowing them to safely land, your video would go viral.

211 posted on 11/28/2013 6:50:01 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey; Marcella
Marcella has guns. I'm not delivering squirrels to her place alive. That could get me seriously dead. ;)

/johnny

212 posted on 11/28/2013 6:55:51 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella

Some of my patients on the substance abuse ward told me that William’s Lectric shave, filtered through white bread makes a delightful preprandial apéritif.

I think it’s easier than the whole crushing the grapes thing.


213 posted on 11/28/2013 6:57:52 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey

“I bought a Marie Callendar’s roasted turkey tv dinner..oh, wait, they don’t call them tv dinners anymore. I ate leftover pizza instead,”

Don’t you have a husband and have to cook Thanksgiving dinner?


214 posted on 11/28/2013 7:38:25 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: JRandomFreeper

“I had a can of chili and a couple of slices of home-made bread.”

So, you didn’t go to daughter’s house and have a foreign type dinner?


215 posted on 11/28/2013 7:41:52 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
No, I woke up in a foul mood and wouldn't have been good company, so I didn't inflict myself on them.

/johnny

216 posted on 11/28/2013 7:45:35 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

After tonight, our temps are going up to our regular “winter” weather, 50s at night. Daytime should be good in the house and not bad at night even in Ft. Worth.


217 posted on 11/28/2013 8:03:37 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
Don’t you have a husband and have to cook Thanksgiving dinner?

Nope, he's twenty years dead. I stopped cooking Thanksgiving dinner about six years ago when I decided I'd rather spend the day doing Christmas Decorating.

218 posted on 11/28/2013 10:50:11 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Marcella

BTW, I packed my growlight back into the box because I had it set up where the Christmas Tree will go tomorrow. So, except for the sweet potato slips rooting in a mason jar in my kitchen, no indoor plant action until January.


219 posted on 11/28/2013 11:06:51 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Marcella

It’s 28F here at 8:30 am. I’m not sure if Pak Choy is frost tolerant, but mine looks pretty frozen right now. I forgot to look at the cabbages, swiss chard, and stuff..


220 posted on 11/29/2013 6:24:07 AM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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