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Quantum physics proves that there IS an afterlife, claims scientist
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 11:47 EST, 14 November 2013 | Victoria Woollaston

Posted on 11/15/2013 9:33:44 PM PST by Olog-hai

Most scientists would probably say that the concept of an afterlife is either nonsense, or at the very least unprovable. Yet one expert claims he has evidence to confirm an existence beyond the grave—and it lies in quantum physics. Professor Robert Lanza claims the theory of biocentrism teaches that death as we know it is an illusion created by our consciousness. …

Biocentrism is classed as the theory of everything and comes from the Greek for “life center”. It is the believe that life and biology are central to reality and that life creates the universe, not the other way (a)round. This suggests a person’s consciousness determines the shape and size of objects in the universe. …

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KEYWORDS: afterlife; biocentrism; faithandphilosophy; nothingprovesdabible; quantumphysics; robertlanza
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To: freedom462
Your answer may be found by combining two important aspects of our existence and relationship to God our Creator:

First, God created us to have free agency, making our seeking Him and a relationship with Him the more precious

Second, God does not intervene in all tragedies because to do so would make God 'manipulatable' and thus not God as we have been taught to think of Him; reacting to the actions of others everytime makes you slave to their actions; put another way, God cannot be tempted

I hope that helps ...

21 posted on 11/15/2013 10:26:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: txhurl

I have read about them, but for years they never came to even attempt to help me, so I feel I have to figure out why. It is difficult because I do feel that I may have died of suicidal depression by now if I really was sure that there was not a God.


22 posted on 11/15/2013 10:26:53 PM PST by freedom462
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To: MHGinTN

But hasn’t there been supposed cases where he did intervene and lead people to find Him even when they were not looking for Him? Why doesn’t he let everyone in the world know that the should be looking? Until I was about 23 or so God never intervened in my life and never even tired to let me know that i should be looking for him. At 23 I feel He may have picked that time to intervene, but I don’t know why He would wait that long.


23 posted on 11/15/2013 10:31:18 PM PST by freedom462
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To: freedom462
If I could answer your questions directly, I would be classed as a theologian. I'm not. far from it. BUT, I have the spark of His Spirit in my human spirit and have come to accept that His ways are so far above my ways that I have so few clues why He runs His Universe as He does. Put another way, my finite mind could not grasp all the variables God handles, even if I could identify them on His terms.

The Bible records that Abraham believed God and it was counted for him righteousness. I believe God for He cannot lie. I believe His Word that with His Spirit in my human Spirit I will not die, though my body rot away.

But the Bible goes even further to teach that ALL HUMAN SPIRTS exist beyond the constraints of time, they are immortal. The question is what destiny you choose for your eternity. God has given clear choices. We make the choice one way or the other, even by default. Jeuss told the Pharisees that what God wanted was for them to believe on Him Whom God Has sent for their choice. That's all Jesus instructed them at that question.

24 posted on 11/15/2013 10:37:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: freedom462

See my privater eply...


25 posted on 11/15/2013 10:46:29 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Olog-hai
Jesus of Nazareth is reliably reported as having said to the members of the Sanhedrin Sadducees Party, who say there is no resurrection, "But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God: ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

And so forth, throughout the Gospels, and spoke of Heaven with the kind of familiarity one might have today of one's own livingroom.

So, those reports depend much on the credibility of the witnesses, which is another subject.

It's not a leap of faith to sit down in a chair, it is faith itself, which is an action based upon "belief."

The String Theoreticians, the 11 dimension crowd, claim nothing in our known cosmos is more than 11 centimeters away from every other thing, that gravity itself may be a remnant of the entanglement of all things "prior to" the, so-called, "Big Bang."

In short, as Shakespeare wrote, "there are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

26 posted on 11/15/2013 10:57:06 PM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Olog-hai

I am, therefore I think.


27 posted on 11/15/2013 11:02:59 PM PST by whodathunkit
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To: Olog-hai
Professor Robert Lanza claims the theory of biocentrism teaches that death as we know it is an illusion created by our consciousness. … Biocentrism is classed as the theory of everything and comes from the Greek for “life center”. It is the believe that life and biology are central to reality and that life creates the universe, not the other way (a)round.

The Buddha beat you to that explanation by 2,500 years, professor. :-)

28 posted on 11/15/2013 11:06:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Bullish
If THIS is the afterlife then I feel completely gypped.

CC

29 posted on 11/15/2013 11:13:11 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: freedom462
If you feel that G_d has moved away from you it is a certainty you have moved and not G_d. iMHO

CC

30 posted on 11/15/2013 11:17:28 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: freedom462

Sometime, people don’t recognize the “help” they get. They may think “help” is a detriment-—but when you look back at events and reflect-—you find that some of the most horrific things that happened in your life, led to the most wonderful things.

Pain and hardship leads to the greatest spiritual growth and most Knowledge.

People who have gone on to do great things never had an “easy” life. They had to learn Fortitude in childhood and you only do that when you face adversity. Fortitude is a Virtue. Virtue is taught and habituated. Being grateful for what you have is major. You are always better off than someone.

Sometimes expectations are really messed up. Life is hard and just a short journey but everyone has a cross to bear....it is the afterlife which is the utopia.

Love and trust God. Then you will have pure joy and everything else falls in order and you realize how good God is.


31 posted on 11/15/2013 11:19:19 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Olog-hai

This guy is a quack at both philosophy and science.


32 posted on 11/15/2013 11:44:44 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear
In fact he is a complete genius.

see his credentials here

I have read most of what he has written and have some of his quotes on my social media. And you are? Ahem.

33 posted on 11/15/2013 11:54:18 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: AndyTheBear
this is what Lanza bases his biocentrism theory on and if you can grasp it, it is simply the most amazing thing ever to become known to us as mankind.
34 posted on 11/15/2013 11:59:04 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: TBP

Exactly. I am an Orthodox Christian and I listened to Lanza one night with a mostly open mouth as he pretty much lined up with some of the basic thrology of my faith, except he called it science.


35 posted on 11/16/2013 12:02:14 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: TBP
New finding’s within the quantum realm have shown us that reality is not how we perceive it, at the same time it is exactly how we perceive it. A collective consciousness (like the entire population of planet Earth) is responsible for creating the reality, illusion and experience we see in front of us everyday. The way each one of us perceives reality coupled with the feelings and emotions that accompany that perception directly make up our entire Earth experience. We literally, scientifically have the ability to manifest any type of reality we desire given the type of energy we all emanate. An energy of love is much more productive then an energy of fear.
36 posted on 11/16/2013 12:07:01 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: freedom462
Five Reasons You Won't Die

In fact, researchers recently showed (Nature 2009) that pairs of ions could be coaxed to entangle so their physical properties remained bound together even when separated by large distances, as if there was no space or time between them. Why? Because space and time aren't hard, cold objects. They're merely tools of our understanding. Death doesn't exist in a timeless, spaceless world.

You really should read everything you can find that he wrote. It is all just mind-blowing. I believed in Christ and worshipped God before I found Lanza but this stuff is so so Orthodox Christian that it all just cemented everything so nicely for me.

37 posted on 11/16/2013 12:12:42 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Olog-hai
I can't stop on this topic. I just wanted to share this last truly incredible finding...If this doesn't change everything in your entire life, you should read it again. It is like the Twilight Zone becoming real to me.

In 2002, scientists showed that particles of light “photons” knew – in advance – what their distant twins would do in the future. They tested the communication between pairs of photons. They let one photon finish its journey – it had to decide whether to be either a wave or a particle. Researchers stretched the distance the other photon took to reach its own detector. However, they could add a scrambler to prevent it from collapsing into a particle. Somehow, the first particle knew what the researcher was going to do before it happened – and across distances instantaneously as if there were no space or time between them. They decide not to become particles before their twin even encounters the scrambler. It doesn’t matter how we set up the experiment. Our mind and its knowledge is the only thing that determines how they behave. Experiments consistently confirm these observer-dependent effects. Bizarre? Consider another experiment that was recently published in the prestigious scientific journal Science (Jacques et al, 315, 966, 2007). Scientists in France shot photons into an apparatus, and showed that what they did could retroactively change something that had already happened in the past. As the photons passed a fork in the apparatus, they had to decide whether to behave like particles or waves when they hit a beam splitter. Later on – well after the photons passed the fork – the experimenter could randomly switch a second beam splitter on and off. It turns out that what the observer decided at that point, determined what the particle actually did at the fork in the past. At that moment, the experimenter chose his past.

38 posted on 11/16/2013 12:17:21 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Olog-hai
Jesus taught quantum physics
39 posted on 11/16/2013 12:19:18 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: freedom462

He was there. He, however, graciously allowed you your pain, so you would reach out for Him.


40 posted on 11/16/2013 12:37:21 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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