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Retired General: Some in Military Want to 'Take Out the President'
National Journal ^ | November 1, 2013 | Alex Seitz-Wald

Posted on 11/01/2013 2:14:13 PM PDT by don-o

A former top general and current executive at the Family Research Council says members of the military have considered staging a coup d'état against President, but will not because of civilian control of the military.

"People I've spoken to would like to see the military 'fulfill their constitutional duty and take out the president,' " retired Army Lt. Gen. William Boykin told World Net Daily, a website best known for pushing Obama "birther" conspiracy theories. "Our Constitution puts a civilian in charge of the military and as a result a coup would not be constitutional. You're not going to see a coup in the military."

"I talk to a lot of folks who don't support where Obama is taking the military, but in the military they can't say anything," Boykin said.

Boykin, an evangelical Christian who is now the executive vice president of the Family Research Council, was publicly repudiated by President Bush twice in 2003 for saying Muslims worship an "idol" and not "a real God." Last year, Boykin abruptly pulled out of appearing at a West Point ceremony after controversy erupted over the invitation. (Boykin has also said Islam "should not be protected under the First Amendment" and that there should be "no mosques in America" because "a mosque is an embassy for Islam and they recognize only a global caliphate.")

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: boykin; civilwar; coup; cw2; cwii; flagofficers; military; overthrow; rebellion
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To: Steely Tom

Plenty of people in the military hate Obama, but I have never heard anybody talk about “taking him out.” I’m calling BS on this.


61 posted on 11/01/2013 2:56:13 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He could massacre a troop of girl scouts on the White House lawn during the Easter Egg roll, butcher them, barbecue them and serve them to the participants and he still wouldn’t be impeached. And if you criticized him about it, the press would say “it’s a black thing” and accuse you of being a racist tea party rethuglican for bringing it up while licking their fingers and asking Michelle what kind of spice rub they’re using and ask for more macaroni & cheese and a refill of their kook-aid.

Pretty close to the truth.

62 posted on 11/01/2013 2:56:19 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: don-o

The military wants to take out the President. Now that gays are allowed to be open in the military then saying that guys in the military want to take out the President takes on a whole different meaning.

One that I’m sure Bath House Barry would support.


63 posted on 11/01/2013 2:58:48 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: USNBandit
Plenty of people in the military hate Obama, but I have never heard anybody talk about “taking him out.” I’m calling BS on this.

I only know two people in the military, and I know one of them pretty well. It is inconceivable he would ever say anything like this. He knows the rules, just like everyone else.

Our enemies love to take advantage of foolish talk like this.

64 posted on 11/01/2013 2:59:33 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: don-o

Anyway, I fail to see the logic. So you unseat Obama. Would you put the GOPe in charge? A cabal of US military generals?
Do you then force the progressives to live according to your dictates? Or do we all get to enjoy the freedom of living like we were enlisted on a military base?

There is no substitute for winning the war of ideas.


65 posted on 11/01/2013 3:01:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: rcofdayton

“And some in the military love the president. So what?”

Good point, good question. While traveling, I met an Army officer who was bragging about quietly violating the order about political activity and volunteering in the current resident’s first campaign.


66 posted on 11/01/2013 3:02:20 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’d hope so but, it sounds like a couched threat.


67 posted on 11/01/2013 3:02:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Steely Tom

Better to just lock the imposter up in federal penitentiary.


68 posted on 11/01/2013 3:02:39 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
The name is Galt. Mark Galt.

Roger that. Already gone -:)

69 posted on 11/01/2013 3:02:48 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: Olog-hai

“They’re referencing a comment by Boykin that appeared in WND, where he said that the notion of a military coup is out of the question.”

Thanks for that comment.

I was beginning to believe I was the only one that read it that way.

Leftist routinely take their assumptions, which are routinely wrong, and try to make facts out of them which are opposite from reality.


70 posted on 11/01/2013 3:02:59 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: JRandomFreeper

Exactly so. Our revolutions tend to be at the ballot box. Which is one reason our government has outlasted so many of the S. American republics.


71 posted on 11/01/2013 3:03:28 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Steely Tom

When your birth certificate is proven to be a fraud, which is needed to legally run for office, that is a bloodless coup. Completely illegal.


72 posted on 11/01/2013 3:04:59 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: don-o

If no general was willing to resign, much less go to prison, over the treasonous ROE in Afghanistan, this story is ridiculous.


73 posted on 11/01/2013 3:07:29 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

This is the pressure cooker value as long as the elections are trusted as being honest.


74 posted on 11/01/2013 3:09:49 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: fabian
When your birth certificate is proven to be a fraud...

Proven to whom? How many are satisfied with the proof?

Many - including myself - believe that any and all firearms laws are illegal under the Second Amendment.

Break those laws and wave a copy of the Constitution around as your defense. See what happens.

You're talking politics, not law.

75 posted on 11/01/2013 3:10:01 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
If no general was willing to resign, much less go to prison, over the treasonous ROE in Afghanistan, this story is ridiculous.

Excellent point, well expressed.

76 posted on 11/01/2013 3:11:16 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: wintertime

And they are increasingly fraudulent.

Now what.

I don’t see curing this via elections, esp. since the Rs are so corrupt, weak and/or on board.


77 posted on 11/01/2013 3:19:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Steely Tom

ahh..by sheriff Arpio. Fact. Come on...its not a dream...it is an usurper who with help by foreign agents, has illegally gotten into our highest office.


78 posted on 11/01/2013 3:20:49 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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79 posted on 11/01/2013 3:24:46 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: don-o
Our Constitution puts a civilian in charge of the military and as a result a coup would not be constitutional

Are those in the US military citizens first or solders first? Hey General, the military uniform can be taken off and also, the military, by constitutional law do not have to obey an unconstitutional order or orders from a fraud president (dictator) holding office unconstitutionally. So military commanders ordering their troops to fire on American citizens is unconstitutional so the commanders that issues such orders should be immediately removed and with a bullet if necessary.

80 posted on 11/01/2013 3:27:56 PM PDT by drypowder
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