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I need prayers (update #282)

Posted on 10/22/2013 12:04:41 PM PDT by Kidlett CLR

Edited on 10/22/2013 1:23:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I am losing my home on the 31st I have to be out or I can offer $300 for one more month... I'm 18 and just got out on my own, please pray that I can find the means to keep myself off the streets. Thank you and God bless.


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See if an agency such as church can get you emergency shelter in a larger city so you can get help easier. It may mean having to cut your losses and taking only the basics with you such as clothes and samller items.


201 posted on 10/22/2013 7:36:29 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: trussell

I join in urgent prayer for your daughter!


202 posted on 10/22/2013 7:38:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Kidlett CLR

I read this post earlier in the day- but it has seriously bugged me. I have questions:
1. Why did you drop out of high school?
2. Your back issue- have you seen a spine surgeon?
3. The conversion thing- have you sought psych treatment?
It seem to me you are on a bad pathway. Quit blaming issues on your health. I have seen many people with spondylolithesis- they are not wheelchair bound. It seems to me that you need to get your your diploma, and quit blaming your problems on health issues. You are 18 years old. I can give you many stories of people your age being felled by horrible disease like cancer. You need psych treatment immediately. If you had a serious back issue, Mediacaid would have paid for a ortho or spine suregon consult. The fact that no one has operated on you makes me think your back is more a psych than a physical problem. People are enabling your diagnosis- and what is with the veritgo? You are on a bad pathway in your life. Get it together.


203 posted on 10/22/2013 8:34:00 PM PDT by kaila
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To: Kartographer; Kidlett CLR

And Amen! Great prayer! Ole Wah . . .


204 posted on 10/22/2013 9:00:22 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: editor-surveyor

You are mistaken.

A disabled homeless teenage girl is eligible for a multitude of public benefits including safe housing, food, and Medicaid.

Pointing that out is not snark, it’s common sense and common knowledge.

The question to be answered is why the mother and daughter allowed this situation to spiral into a crisis before taking any steps to solve it.

By the way, did you read my original two posts?

Of course not.

They were humane, sympathetic, and helpful.

As more and more facts came out, my opinion changed.


205 posted on 10/22/2013 11:42:21 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: ottbmare

OK, I believe you.

My first two comments were very sympathetic and helpful, by the way.

No question that the lives of good people can suddenly swerve off the road and into the ditch through no fault of their own.

However, when I read that this person was a teenage girl in a wheelchair, I could not help but think that just a little bit of advanced planning and effort could have prevented this crisis.


206 posted on 10/22/2013 11:58:59 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Kidlett CLR

It sounds like you’re in a difficult situation and I’ll help with what you have asked for, prayers. If you keep trying, I expect that you’ll find a way out. May God help you, and prayers for you and for your Mom.


207 posted on 10/23/2013 12:36:08 AM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: trussell

She could be a sniper!..............................


208 posted on 10/23/2013 6:14:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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To: zeestephen

I am sure you’re right that advance planning might have avoided these problems. All down the line. But the advance planning sometimes goes out the window when, like Trussell, you fall down and find yourself suddenly paralyzed. That sort of disaster, with appropriate coverage and care declined by insurance, really throws you off.

I try not to be gullible, but there have been several times in my otherwise very fortunate and privileged life when, out of the blue, there was a sudden catastrophe. One odd thing I note is that comfortable people, people who have never had such mischances, are a little disconcerted, suspicious, and even a bit frightened by them, as if bad luck could be catching. They look at one’s circumstances closely to find out the error that led to these events. If they can figure out what you did wrong that led to this misfortune, they feel safe—it will never happen to them, because they’ll never make that mistake! Even if the disaster was something totally beyond the control of the victim, like a stroke, an automobile accident, a tornado, some Freepers (not you, of course) really have a blame-the-victim reaction to distress. This is unjust. Being conservative and independent-minded does not mean we do not have compassion for people who are really in a bad spot.


209 posted on 10/23/2013 6:40:00 AM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: kaila

Kaila...you seem to be very judgemental here, and your tone is out of hand. Ask nicely, she would be happy to reply! I will answer to the best of my ability.

1. She dropped out of school because she had a learning disability. When she got into middle school and had to transfer classes, she had troubles with that and couldn’t get herself to change course and be on task. She was on a learning program, but still didn’t earn the credits for graduation.

2. She saw a spine surgeon, they weren’t prepared to do surgery on her spine yet, but said that may be something she has to consider in a few years.

3 She has been under psych treatment, but that was a doctor who saw her for 15 minutes, threw pills at her and said “see you next month”. She doesn’t want to be doped up, she wants therapy...but that isn’t available to her at this time.

4. Your accusations that she is on a bad pathway are your own mind being judgemental towards someone you know nothing about.. She has several health issues that aren’t mentioned here, she is under observation and treatment for other issues that were nobody’s business. The vertigo was caused by the spondolysthesis, she was bent over for several months by the lower lumbar going OVER the S1...when they put her in a back brace and got her upright again, her body wasn’t use to that and she ended up with vertigo. Believe me, she has it together, she is an awesome young lady with a faith in God that most people don’t have. She is caring and giving of herself in every way possible. Don’t judge, unless you want to be judged for your bad attitude towards a young girl who only wants prayer and advice. Your advice (as hateful as it sounds) wasn’t necessary! ...and if you see a different side of me in this post, that’s because you woke up the mother bear in me by taking such an attitude with my daughter!


210 posted on 10/23/2013 8:28:56 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: ottbmare

Thank you so much for such a sensitive post. You are so kind...and thank you for the prayers!


211 posted on 10/23/2013 8:32:05 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

I think that when you are 18 years old, and angling for permanent disability payments, which I , as a taxpayer have to pay- I have questions.
She needs to go back on her learning program. If she does not get a high school diploma, she will face a lifetime of poverty.
If she is wheelchair dependant due to her back issues, I would recommend she go back to the spine doc. Get a second opinion. No doc likes to see an 18 year old in a wheelchair if they can correct it.
Maybe, she should take the meds for her psych problems. She should give those a chance before resigning herself to a lifetime of dependancy.


212 posted on 10/23/2013 9:29:42 AM PDT by kaila
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To: kaila

She intends to get her GED, but has to wait for programs that will help her get to the classes. Before she can go to classes, she needs somewhere to live. She is trying to fix that problem first. She has talked with doctors about her back problems, they are not willing to do surgery on someone as young as she is...go figure, you think they would do it because of her age? They won’t do it because of her age. I think, since I was there and heard what they said, I know better what their opinion is regarding her needs/care. Her legs shut down, because of the conversion disorder and the back issues. The conversion disorder appears when she is stressed. Sometimes her cycle can shut her legs down from the pain it causes in her back. Lots of stuff you don’t know...and btw...I’ve paid in too...consider that I have paid in for what my daughter may end up collecting.


213 posted on 10/23/2013 10:47:58 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

I have seen this type of story played out so many times. Usually, the end result of bad decision making. It seems to me that you are blaming a lot of other people for your problems- the landlord, the muslim girl, the psych doctor who threw the meds,the school.
You have had medical issues for how long? You are only just now applying for help? When you were hospitalized for your medical issues, you could have requested a social worker to help you find housing , EBT, and welfare. But, you are just applyng now. Bad decision.
You let your daughter drop out of middle school ( if I can recall). Your daughter has the right to an education, and you could have requested special assistance from the school, which by law- they have to provide.She dropped out. Bad decision.
If your daughter was special needs- she could have been eligible for SS. Did you apply at that time? Probably not- bad decision.
Living in a rural area in which you are unable to obtain public transportation- bad decision.
When the psych doctor prescribes meds- take them. Because some psych issues cannot be cured by “therapy” like bipolar disorder,schizophrenia, depression. By not following advice she exacerbated her mental health condition. Bad decision.
My advice to you is start being proactive rather than reactive in the future, becaue life has a way of throwing bombs in your direction, especially when you have physical and mental health issues. I can make a one liner about prayers going your way, but I am not like that. I tell it like it is.
If I was you, I would be on the phone daily to your local social service agency requesting help in housing, welfare asssistance. Start being proactive.


214 posted on 10/23/2013 11:13:59 AM PDT by kaila
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To: trussell

I am so sorry. Hopefully somebody can help.


215 posted on 10/23/2013 12:48:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: ottbmare
Re: “Being conservative and independent-minded does not mean we do not have compassion for people who are really in a bad spot.”

I completely agree.

My first two posts were sympathetic and filled with good advice about obtaining public assistance.

I was one of the first people to read the young woman's post.

She did not identify her gender, so I assumed it was an 18 year old boy.

I gave “him” a good summary of the services available to homeless young men.

Then, the Mother posted, and I found out this was a girl, not a boy.

Problem solved - you call the Women's Hotline, they pick you up, you go straight to a shelter or a motel, probably in every town in America, and certainly in larger towns.

There's a reason you don't see women and children sleeping in the street.

It's dangerous, it's frightening, and taxpayers and government do whatever is necessary to help them.

That's what I wrote in my second post.

Then the Mother writes another post and says the girl is in a wheelchair.

That's when I started to doubt the truthfulness of this story.

We have a grandmother, a Mother, and a daughter who do not know that homeless women can go to shelters?

We have a grandmother, a Mother, and a daughter who do not know that an 18 year old girl in a wheelchair is eligible for a multitude of public and private welfare programs?

That's the part of the story I found incredible, and that's why I started to question what I was reading.

216 posted on 10/24/2013 12:53:42 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: rwfromkansas

Thank you so much my friend!


217 posted on 10/24/2013 5:38:58 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: All; DJ MacWoW; ottbmare; Responsibility2nd; Heart of Georgia

Well, bad news...she has called every number and checked every link provided. They have 3 shelters, mixed sex, all full at this time, no room in the shelter for Kidlett clr. Her only option right now is to live under a bridge in a tent with a bunch of other homeless. How does a girl in a wheelchair live in a tent?


218 posted on 10/24/2013 5:30:15 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell
I'm so sorry! I wish I could help.

I'll keep praying. He has a plan.

219 posted on 10/24/2013 5:32:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule the all)
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To: kaila

They asked for prayers not spiteful replies.


220 posted on 10/24/2013 5:39:36 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule the all)
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