Posted on 10/21/2013 7:56:09 AM PDT by rktman
MSNBC's erratic Hardball host, Chris Matthews, has again gone off the deep end with his nonsense talk about the Constitution's three-fifths clause. He's claiming that conservatives believe black people are, or once were, only three-fifths of a person.
Why does a group of people that always loses elections or tends to do lately, why do they call themselves American people because - do they still count blacks as three-fifths? Three-fifths of a vote?
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Actual voting by slaves had nothing to do with it, though it should have.
It was completely for the purposes of representation in Congress.
If each slave counted as a full person that would give more representation, and thus larger clout when voting on slavery-related issues for the slave-holding states.
If slaves counted as zero in the census, there would have no increase in Congress for slave-holding states, and less relative clout.
The lies and accusations are just getting bigger and bigger and even the dumbest people are beginning to notice.
Dear Chris, take 30 seconds to check out this thing called google.
The second part of the 3/5ths compromise was beneficial to the South. Taxation was based on state population. There was, as all Freepers know, no direct taxation on individuals. The tax was owed by the states and based on their population. The South wanted slaves counted 100% for representation and not counted at all for taxation. 3/5ths for each purpose was the eventual compromise. Also, at the time of the Convention the future of slavery was in doubt. Tobacco fields were in decline and cotton because of its troublesome seeds was not worth the effort, especially since it had to be exported to England to make any real money for the planter. Only South Carolina’s and coastal Georgia’s rice production held the promise of continued return. So slavery was in fact petering out. It was the synchronicity of two independent events, Whitney’s Gin and Slater’s water powered mill that saved slavery and tied Northern prosperity to the existence of Southern slavery.
The three 5ths of cheap scotch Chrissy drank last night are still talking although his brainstem is down.
Chris is lost on purpose, for a buck. A sad clown now. Even he who is wistful has to see the collapse of a once great country, built on goodness as the Constitution attests, and now heading into ruin.
How he sleeps without a pacifier, I am sure I don’t know.
The problem is that they lack the intelligence to understand the truth. The end result of us waisting our best and brightest on the distant battlefields of the world.
I think it’s more that admitting that we’re right and they were wrong is too much for their egos to accept.
I would put it this way:
It was the North that reduced the representation of slave states and the South which reduced the personhood of slaves by owning them instead of setting them free as they had full power to do without loss of life. When the time came for the North to set slaves free it cost half a million lives.
Extremist Matthews should seek counseling...he’s going right over the edge.
None the less....stupid is what stupid does...and there are a whole lot of stupid walking around on two legs....and ya can’t fix stupid.
and where we are today is pretty serendipitous
politics is not nearly as linear as freepers think nor as neat
we have ended up all over the place and conservatives are just about without a party and yes...as a Southerner I have never trusted the GOP like so many here do
democrats suck...there are none left worth pissing on and the GOP establishment is almost as big an enemy...in a way it's worse...they have used us and now betray us
if only they fought the left like they do us
It’s too bad our efforts to insulate our lives from their stupidity have been broken down.
Liberals place a very high value on “being in the same boat”.
It’s like a higher virtue for them.
You said it first, but it bears repeating, Matthews shows his ignorance of history and the Constitution every time he opens his mouth, and the people who swallow his swill are more ignorant than he is.
But the assumption was that the relative size of the general population of a state roughly correlated with the relative size of the subset of the population that were qualified voters.
The subset of slaves who could vote was zero.
But when it came to a reckoning for tax apportionment the southern slavers didn’t want to count them at all. Like all true democrats they wanted their cake and to eat it too.
I will add a third factor, Jackson’s victory over the Creeks in the War of 1812. It opened the territories of the then Southwest to development.
I think we are agreeing vigorously with each other!
What makes you think it's a misinterpretation?
They know what its history is. They purposefully represent it this way to inflame and incite.
-PJ
No, but if he is only 3/5 human, what are the other 2/5?
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