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Let the Microsoft bashing begin.
1 posted on 10/18/2013 7:49:57 AM PDT by McGruff
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In summary, Windows 8.1 is what Windows 8 should have been. All of these improvements are on top of the many great desktop features, security improvements, and all-around battery life and performance optimizations that appeared in Windows 8.

If you’re still using Windows 7 and are happy with it, there’s probably no reason to race out and buy a copy of Windows 8.1 at the rather high price of $120. But, if you’re using Windows 8, it’s a big upgrade no matter what you’re doing.

If you buy a new PC and it comes with Windows 8.1, you’re getting a much more flexible and comfortable experience. If you’re holding off on buying a new computer because you don’t want Windows 8, give Windows 8.1 a try — yes, it’s different, but Microsoft has compromised on the desktop while making a lot of improvements to the new interface. You just might find that Windows 8.1 is now a worthwhile upgrade, even if you only want to use the desktop.


2 posted on 10/18/2013 7:50:26 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his sole for a Dam project.)
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3 posted on 10/18/2013 7:51:03 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Also How the Modern Interface is Improved in Windows 8.1
4 posted on 10/18/2013 7:52:17 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his sole for a Dam project.)
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Does this product lock up the computer like the rest of the products? I just love it when Ctrl+Alt+Delete does not work.
9 posted on 10/18/2013 7:57:58 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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>> Let the Microsoft bashing begin.

Okay... will Microsoft be *doing* the bashing, or receiving it? :-)

But seriously, I have Win8 on a little ASUS sub-laptop with a touch screen (not my main PC, just a travel companion), and it’s a love-hate relationship. I’m hoping 8.1 fixes the stuff I hate so I can stop hatin’ on 8.


13 posted on 10/18/2013 8:00:30 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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As long as we're on the topic.

Access PC Settings Easily from Your Desktop in Windows 8 and 8.1

14 posted on 10/18/2013 8:02:43 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his sole for a Dam project.)
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I am sticking with Win7 and IE9.

When I put a new hard drive in my Win7 laptop a few weeks ago, Windows auto-updated and replaced IE9 with IE10. I thought I had auto-update turned off.

Anyway, I use an old tabbed IE-based browser for FR. This browser has some editing and productivity add-ons that are no longer available and which have no comparable modern equivalents. These add-on features are more important/valuable to me than and IE upgrade.

Well, IE10 killed the add-ons. They would work with 9, so I uninstalled 10. Windows defaulted to restoring 9. I am somewhat happy again.

From XP to Win7, I lost several programs that have no modern equivalents. I managed to tweak and trick a few others into working under Win7. I doubt any of them would work under Win8.1. I have a dead Minolta b/w laser printer — dead because no one developed a Win7 64-bit driver for it. I am tired of Windows upgrades that won’t support older peripherals.

The only thing worse than a Win/IE upgrade is Firefox’s rapid release insanity.

Newer is NOT always better. Many times it is WORSE. When they think they fixed what they broke the last time, they end up breaking something else.


18 posted on 10/18/2013 8:10:06 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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Microsoft’s motto: Change simply for the sake of change with total disregard toward actual improvement simply so that we can make even more billions. ;-)


19 posted on 10/18/2013 8:10:15 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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Three words: It. Still. Sucks.

Not bashing, Win 7 and XP Pro are the high-water marks for M$, is all.


21 posted on 10/18/2013 8:12:53 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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All I need to know about Windows 8.1 is the version number. MS never really gets it right until Service Pack #2, so I am still going to be waiting.


25 posted on 10/18/2013 8:15:51 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Linux, the ultimate Windows Upgrade.


34 posted on 10/18/2013 8:26:03 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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I bought a laptop about a year ago and it had Windows 8. I never figured out how to use it. I just hit the window that let me use Internet Explorer. Anyway a couple of days ago when I turned on the laptop a bunch of those little windows were missing right in the middle of the whole thing. I have no idea what happened to them. Any clues?


35 posted on 10/18/2013 8:26:36 AM PDT by Spunky
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It’s Windows. All you need to know.


40 posted on 10/18/2013 8:36:25 AM PDT by Vinnie
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I recently upgraded my computers from XP to Win8 and then to Win8.1 and have to confess that I like it quite a bit. It certainly is speedier, has a fresher look and makes finding things easier. I highly recommend the Start8 third-party addon, $5, which makes the desktop experience just like XP.


43 posted on 10/18/2013 8:40:39 AM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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Is this an upgrade like when Windows Media Player dropped DVD playback?


54 posted on 10/18/2013 9:02:31 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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There’s only one thing anybody needs to know about Windows 8.1: it’s lipstick on a pig and the deckchairs have been rearranged a tad. (OK, technically that’s two things.)

But seriously, if you are a business person or use your PC(s) for anything besides texting, twittering, facebooking, or looking up the latest cat videos, under no circumstance should you consider using Windows 8.xxxxxxx; instead, stick with Windows 7.


55 posted on 10/18/2013 9:05:47 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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So, if you have suffered through Windows 8, will they upgrade you to 8.1 for FREE as an apology?


57 posted on 10/18/2013 9:06:33 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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While not MS "bashing" per se, I have pretty much taken it as a given that each new version released does little more than add more bells and whistles that demand more processor cycles and memory while adding little to performance. I do not need lovelier interfaces, fonts, and desktop effects. I need PERFORMANCE and STABILITY.

I need a machine that still supports the printers, scanners, cameras, and video cards that I already have, not something that requires more weeks of downloading updates, drivers, and fixes for a "new and better" operating system simply to do the work I need to get done.

I am beyond tired of friends, relatives, and previous customers calling and emailing begging for help for programs that used to work quite well at one point but over time as more and more system upgrades and enhancements continued to roll out became less and less responsive until this latest release makes it pretty much mandatory that the "newest" version of all software they need must also be purchased. Now I simply insist on doing a dual-install on their new machine and install Linux and Wine as the fastest solution to run the more critical programs they need.

Sometimes they have to drop back to a previous version of their programs, but a little tradeoff is not a bad thing.

As far as compatability... sometimes they just are too unwilling to switch over to Linux so I simply tell them to inform others that they need to agree on common formats for file compatabilities. Keep it simple, and insist on using rtf, html, jpg, gif, and even previous-version doc formats if necessary. Not everyone is running MS Office 2014 (yes, there is a beta out there), and some not even Office 2008.

If someone just HAS to show you some piechart or something, tell them to save it as a jpeg and send it along with the text file. There are lots of free conversion programs out there, just find a reputable site to download from and you are golden.

Finally: Linux is Free. Why continue to pay 120 dollars each time the latest basic-install version of MS software is issued simply because it is "The Latest Version" ("New and Improved!") when you do not have to?

I recently looked into purchasing an officially licensed version of XP, 2k, and even 98 -and surprise! They STILL cost 120 dollars!

Suck a Duck, MS, you bloody twits!

63 posted on 10/18/2013 9:29:49 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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What we're seeing here, I suspect, is the trailing edge of the shockwave that hit when the iPad clobbered the market three years ago. Expert Prognosticators - and to be fair, not only at Microsoft - insisted that the PC was dead and that we'd all be toting data pads around within five years.

It won't happen, at least not at that pace, and a lot of hardware manufacturers who were spooked by that have already adjusted. Frankly it's a little beyond me how the marketeers at Microsoft failed to recognize what would happen to their established market when they completely changed the UI and made it mandatory. I've done a few Mint installations for customers who have had enough. That was very poor business practice and entirely avoidable.

The real shock for me as an IT guy was when the Metro interface turned up on their server line. Didn't anyone at Microsoft make the slightest inquiry as to how many servers have touchscreens? Nevertheless, it did send a lot of us who had to use the product to go straight to the command-line-based Core. A lot of Linux admins are having a good laugh as a result. Beyond that, though, it's a nice, stable product. It's just like the old Novell days... ;-)

73 posted on 10/18/2013 10:15:58 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Read This BEFORE You Upgrade!
75 posted on 10/18/2013 10:31:08 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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