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PHOTOS: Cigarettes Save Life! - WWI Cravan "A" Cigarette Tin With The Shot It Stopped Still Inside
Retronaut ^
 | circa WWI
 | Retronaut
Posted on 10/17/2013 6:53:44 PM PDT by DogByte6RER


Arthur Mann joined the Royal Flying Corps in 1914. His daughter-in-law says he was shot down by the Red Baron, Manfred von Richthofen  Arthurs parachute caught in a tree. He also fought in the trenches  when Arthur was shot, the bullet bounced off this tin and saved his life. He also survived gassing, but this experience badly affected his long-term health. He died in 1953″ 
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KEYWORDS: 1914; arthurmann; banglist; bullet; cigarettes; militaria; modernhistory; thegreatwar; tobacco; worldwar1
    Proof positive that cigarettes CAN save lives.
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posted on 
10/17/2013 6:54:04 PM PDT
by 
DogByte6RER
("Loose lips sink ships")
 
To: DogByte6RER
    Where the Germans using shotguns in WWI?
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 6:55:46 PM PDT
by 
skeeter
 
To: skeeter
    Ya that’s like a 3 or 4 ought buck.
Looks bigger than 00 (.32-33)
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 6:59:29 PM PDT
by 
One Name
(Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
 
To: skeeter
    Where the Germans using shotguns in WWI? My first thought was a musket ball. I don't think those were in use. 
 Perhaps the bullet deformed like that?
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:01:09 PM PDT
by 
ClaytonP
 
To: DogByte6RER
    I’ve recently started downloading and listening to old time radio shows during my long drives on the job. I’m getting a big kick listening to “Rick Diamond, P.I.” and the Camel cigarette ads. I wonder if my doctor really does smoke Camels?
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:05:18 PM PDT
by 
EricT.
(Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Big brother is watching you.)
 
To: DogByte6RER
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:08:41 PM PDT
by 
ClearCase_guy
(21st century. I'm not a fan.)
 
To: ClearCase_guy
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:08:51 PM PDT
by 
ClearCase_guy
(21st century. I'm not a fan.)
 
To: skeeter
    probably "canister shot" , large scale anti-personnel rounds fired from cannons. Filled with multiple projectiles like shotgun shells, but larger. 
 CC
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:09:15 PM PDT
by 
Celtic Conservative
(tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
 
To: One Name
    In WWI the Germans were using the 7.92 FMJ round. Called 8mm.
It would have punched right through that tin cigarette box, and the guy carrying it.
The German 9mm Luger pistol would also have punched through the can.
Maybe sgt York opened up on the guy with a model 97 pump loaded with OO buck at 60 yds.
That would make those images seem reasonable.
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:10:11 PM PDT
by 
9422WMR
(: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
 
To: 9422WMR
    8mm mauser and older Steyr rounds would have blown thru that tin.
Don’t know the scale of the tin but it could be OO were lookin at.
Buddy has a trench gun lacking a few parts; the 1897 changed the trench war- I heard the germans wanted them outlawed because they were so effective in the hands of the Yanks.
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:19:59 PM PDT
by 
One Name
(Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
 
To: skeeter
    I’m thinking this story has more holes in it than that cigarette tin.
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:32:47 PM PDT
by 
Nik Naym
(It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
 
To: ClearCase_guy
    That’s good.I wonder if Craven Moorehead is related to Wilma Dikfit.
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:39:25 PM PDT
by 
Octar
 
To: DogByte6RER
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:43:49 PM PDT
by 
tsowellfan
(www.cafenetamerica.com)
 
To: ClearCase_guy
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posted on 
10/17/2013 7:56:59 PM PDT
by 
Liberty Valance
(Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
 
To: Celtic Conservative
    probably "canister shot" , large scale anti-personnel rounds fired from cannons. Filled with multiple projectiles like shotgun shells, but larger. It could also be a piece of shrapnel from a bursting shell. Many of those used round shot .
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 8:10:10 PM PDT
by 
Charles Martel
(Endeavor to persevere...)
 
To: DogByte6RER
    The tin may date from when Mann was a grunt prior to joining the RFC.
 
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posted on 
10/17/2013 11:19:16 PM PDT
by 
Rockpile
 
To: DogByte6RER
    They packed them a lot tighter in those days?
 
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posted on 
10/18/2013 3:10:12 AM PDT
by 
Joined2Justify
(sure am glad the government has never lied to me)
 
To: 9422WMR
    If it was sopped by the tin box even filled with cigarettes it was most likely nearly spent any way and most likely wouldn’t have caused a fatal wound.
 
To: DogByte6RER; Revolting cat!
    The AMA is going to suppress this statistic.
 
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