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2014 Cadillac ELR: GM's $76K bet: GM commits to plug-in vehicles, but at what price?
Chicago Tribune ^ | October 15, 2013 | Robert Duffer

Posted on 10/16/2013 10:26:24 AM PDT by jazusamo

The Cadillac ELR extended range electric luxury coupe will go on sale in January for $75,995, including destination charges.

Derived from the 2009 Converj concept car, the ELR will have a driving range of more 300 miles between the dual fuel powertrain of an electric motor and a gas generator. The electric-only range is 35 miles, General Motors says, but once the battery loses power the 1.4-liter gas generator takes over to power the electric motor.

If this sounds like the Chevy Volt, the other plug-in hybrid (PHEV) or extended range electric (EREV) produced by GM, it’s because the ELR is being produced in the same Detroit factory and on the same platform as the Chevy Volt.

(Excerpt) Read more at cars.chicagotribune.com ...


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To: Snickering Hound

LOL!

Caddy is still living in the shadow of the Cimarron, it’s mentioned. :)


21 posted on 10/16/2013 10:51:14 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: CrazyIvan
I hereby officially nickname it the niCad.

Ding ding ding.

We have a winner; phone lines are now closed.

22 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:48 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
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To: jazusamo
it’s because the ELR is being produced in the same Detroit factory and on the same platform as the Chevy Volt.

I remember a similar venture between Chevy and Cadillac, producing an abomination known as the Cimarron..

23 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:48 AM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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24 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:57 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

I would look at buying a GM vehicle.....if they got rid of the UAW.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 10:56:00 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
I bet my 1990 Buick gasmobile, considering all my car costs will be miniscule $$ per mile in comparison.

You and me both! 1989 Oldsmobile.

26 posted on 10/16/2013 11:02:25 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: cuban leaf
electric cars based on 20th century tech.

Exactly. Not ready for prime time.

New technology's fine with me if it's better and proven.

27 posted on 10/16/2013 11:05:01 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Texan5
I agree. If what you've got works and is reliable, stick with it.

And there's 100+ years-worth of proven gas and diesel technology.

28 posted on 10/16/2013 11:08:31 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Ouderkirk
It's got to go at least 200 miles on s single charge with heat, lights and tunes at 20o temps or below.

I agree.

What worries me is how reliable it would be. I'd want someone else to do the beta testing.

29 posted on 10/16/2013 11:14:10 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

New technology’s fine with me if it’s better and proven.


I think electrics will win the day, some day. I think they are at least 20 years out from a real and viable hydrocarbon fuel alternative.

I’ve heard that it is theoretically possible to produce a capacitor with so much surface area (thanks to nanotech) that it could store hundreds of miles (or more) of energy for a vehicle that could carry four passengers comfortably, and could be recharged in a minute or less. That’s the cool thing about caps.

But it is not really practical as a mass produced product - yet.


30 posted on 10/16/2013 11:17:23 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Gay State Conservative

When I bought my Scion FRS, the only reason I didn’t get a Volkswagen TDI was the incredible distance between my house and the nearest dealer. One of the rare disadvantages of not living in a megalopolis.


31 posted on 10/16/2013 11:18:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
at least 20 years out from a real and viable hydrocarbon fuel alternative.

If we could get it in 20 years, that would be great. It would be a tremendous accomplishment.

32 posted on 10/16/2013 11:26:09 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Snickering Hound

That was the best-looking Cavalier that Chevrolet made.


33 posted on 10/16/2013 11:46:28 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: MUDDOG

If we could get it in 20 years, that would be great. It would be a tremendous accomplishment.


I think it’s possible. The rate of change is so fast now, and only getting faster. It’s what caused me to come up with such an agressive “minimum” time.

Frankly, with the discovery going on regarding the functioning of the human body, cells and dna, I figure we are less than 50 years from discovering immortality. And no, I don’t think that would be a good thing until we find enough planets to put us all on. And immortal men would only be far more evil than we can ever hope to be in our current short lives.


34 posted on 10/16/2013 11:52:32 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: MUDDOG

Amen-we all know how well that brilliantly designed Volt sold, don’t we? I’m sure GM is just giddy, and wants to repeat the success...


35 posted on 10/16/2013 12:25:25 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: jazusamo

I had the displeasure of driving as a passenger in a Volt recently. While I was told by the ‘lessee’ that Consumer Reports rates the Volt’s ‘customer experience’ as #1 (unverified), let me tell you:

The Chevy Volt has the LOUDEST road noise of any small sedan/compact I’ve ever ridden in (louder than the wife’s 20-y/o Honda Civic).

Besides a few more frills, fancy wheels, leather & other fancies, I guarantee you that the ELR will include about 800lbs of noise dampening and just MAYBE the road noise will go away.

The question is: Will the ELR sell on the promise of $30k of leather & noise dampening? Heh...


36 posted on 10/16/2013 12:50:22 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: cuban leaf
less than 50 years from discovering immortality

I wouldn't take it anyway. Too many people on the other side I want to be reunited with.

37 posted on 10/16/2013 12:51:44 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: jazusamo

Wonder how hot a fire this will be when it goes up. Wouldnt park it near my house.


38 posted on 10/16/2013 12:52:39 PM PDT by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: MUDDOG

I wouldn’t take it anyway.

Same here. But you know that most “successful” atheists would.


39 posted on 10/16/2013 1:00:56 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: logi_cal869

That’s interesting.
Looked at Car & Driver tests and the Volt, Civic, Elantra, and Corolla were all right around 70 dBA on their sound test with the Focus at 72.


40 posted on 10/16/2013 1:02:02 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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