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6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America
Cracked ^ | May 15, 2012 | Jack O'Brien, Elford Alley

Posted on 10/07/2013 3:07:35 PM PDT by EveningStar

When it comes to the birth of America, most of us are working from a stew of elementary school history lessons, Westerns and vague Thanksgiving mythology. And while it's not surprising those sources might biff a couple details, what's shocking is how much less interesting the version we learned was. It turns out our teachers, Hollywood and whoever we got our Thanksgiving mythology from (Big Turkey?) all made America's origin story far more boring than it actually was for some very disturbing reasons. For instance ...

(Excerpt) Read more at cracked.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; americanindians
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I'm interested in seeing what you history buffs think of this article.

This article was originally posted here on October 23, 2012.

1 posted on 10/07/2013 3:07:35 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping

Originally posted here last October.


2 posted on 10/07/2013 3:08:19 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I think points number 6 and points number 4 are pretty well established as fact at this point. I imagine the other ones are up for debate. To be sure, i don’t think any of the other 4 points in this case are completely, 100 % false.


3 posted on 10/07/2013 3:17:29 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: EveningStar

Ahh, Cracked. They’re occasionally amusing, but it’s sometimes difficult to sift through the hard-left opinion masquerading as comedy. That’s when they’re not taking potshots at this place, such as “death threats to Obama are commonplace on Free Republic”.


4 posted on 10/07/2013 3:25:24 PM PDT by Uncle Ivan (Alea iacta est)
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To: EveningStar

I do not know this site and really don’t wish to risk getting cookies and virus.


5 posted on 10/07/2013 3:26:08 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: EveningStar; SunkenCiv

#6 is disputed and there are a wide, very wide, range of estimates for the population of indigenous natives in the Americas.

#5 is partly true. To pretend that American Indians are a single class of people is like saying I’m African or European. They’re diverse and dynamic.

#4 there is a lot of speculation that this is true.

I stopped there because I don’t like Cracked.

SC is the resident professor of history.


6 posted on 10/07/2013 3:31:42 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: mountainlion

it is a satire site

don’t believe everything you read on a satire site


7 posted on 10/07/2013 3:33:42 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
it is a satire site

I didn’t go there anyway. No wonder it did not seem right.

8 posted on 10/07/2013 3:38:06 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: GeronL; mountainlion

This article does not appear to be satire, despite the attempts at humor.


9 posted on 10/07/2013 3:40:05 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I tend to quibble with the estimated population of North America. The fact that there might be campfires all along the coast does not necessarily lend to the idea that the inner part of the continent is as densely populated. Even if they weren’t quite as hunter-gatherer as once thought, they still weren’t as well developed and agriculturally oriented as would be required for higher density populations.


10 posted on 10/07/2013 3:40:40 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: GoldenPup

:)


12 posted on 10/07/2013 3:44:15 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

From the article

“...It’s the same reason every extraordinarily lucky CEO of the past 100 years has written a book about leadership. It’s always a better idea to credit hard work and intelligence than to acknowledge that you just got luckier than any group of people has ever gotten in the history of the world.”

Yeah, ok.


13 posted on 10/07/2013 3:52:20 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: EveningStar

That must’ve been one helluva plague to not only have wiped out 90% of North America’s indigenous peoples (read those who got here first) it also wiped out the physical evidence of the greatness of their society.


14 posted on 10/07/2013 3:59:04 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: EveningStar

Fascinating and funny.


15 posted on 10/07/2013 3:59:15 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: skeeter
The Cracked article lists this as the source for that claim.
16 posted on 10/07/2013 4:08:06 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
They also show us white Europeans being unable to easily defeat a native population that hadn't yet been ravaged by plague. It wasn't coincidence that the pilgrims settled America two years after New England was emptied of 96 percent of the Indians who lived there. According to James W. Loewen's Lies My Teacher Told Me, that's generally how the settling process went: The plague acted as a lead blocker for white European settlers, clearing the land of all the natives.

The site claims there were once 20 to 100 million Native Americans before some unexplained "plague". I've never seen any estimate higher than 20 million. Lots of sweeping claims are made with little support for the claims.

A lot of the blather is building to the assertion that Europeans only defeated a 90% decimated population, and could never have defeated the pre-plague population.

Whatever, once Europeans began settling in the New World, they settled a few hundred here and there and were still surrounded by thousands of natives. The Powhatans were still all around Jamestown in substantial numbers, many times the population of the small Jamestown settlement.

Those writing on that site have an agenda, and it's mostly to denigrate and minimize any accomplishments of Europeans.

17 posted on 10/07/2013 4:18:59 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

It was disease what ultimately killed most Indians off. Dropped them right and left.


18 posted on 10/07/2013 4:23:51 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots
It was disease what ultimately killed most Indians off. Dropped them right and left.

On that site, they write of some plague that decimated the native population before the Europeans arrived. I've read of how the original Spanish explorers spread diseases (primarily smallpox) among the natives that killed many in some areas. But that's not what that site is referring to, and certainly not much later exposure to European diseases after there were many Europeans in the New World.

Like most of the assertions made on the site, the "plague" is not well explained and certainly not documented.

19 posted on 10/07/2013 4:41:00 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88; combat_boots
Like most of the assertions made on the site, the "plague" is not well explained and certainly not documented.

I can't vet the Cracked article as a whole, but please see the link in post 16.

20 posted on 10/07/2013 4:46:17 PM PDT by EveningStar
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