Posted on 10/04/2013 11:21:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
Check out the excerpt below from THIS THREAD (Emanuel blasts 'wrong-headed' GOP leaders over shutdown):
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Wednesday blasted Congressional Republicans for their “wrong-headed” budget brinksmanship he said led to a partial government shutdown... “The election was a referendum. Elections have consequences. The American people have spoken, he has gotten re-elected, and he’s being very reasonable about a way to move forward. They are being unreasonable and irresponsible and reckless.”
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Lately I have been hearing many Democrats and their Democrat "mainstream" newsroom allies spout this brazen lie that the re-election of the African communist Obama was a "referendum" on Obamacare. It is time to put that lie to bed for good. Every time another rat makes that duplicitous claim, he or she needs to be called out:
How could last November's election have been a "referendum" on a program that only took effect this past Tuesday?"
The fact is, the program was deliberately delayed for several years for several reasons, one being to hide the actual cost by delaying outlays while collecting taxes for a few years before implementation.... and the other to make sure it WASN'T a referendum in the last election! The nightmare known as Obamacare was passed without one single Republican vote, and even some of the rat votes were bought ("Cornhusker Kickback") or bullied for. Now, finally, the Republicans control the House and have an opportunity to fight back. Thank God for Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and several others who see this opportunity for what it is - - the first real chance the Republicans have had to loudly proclaim that big government cannot commandeer the healthcare of an entire citizenry in order to provide "free" healthcare to a small portion of that citizenry.
/rant
Just another rant I needed to get off my chest.
Thank you all for your patience.
The (Peoples') House still looks to zero out Zer0's best planz.
The “Republican” nominee was the guy who created the program that provided the basic architecture for Obamacare. There is a reason it was referred to as “Obamneycare.”
Given that, how could it have been a referendum on Obamacare? Does anyone seriously think President Romney would be doing anything but tweaking it while it implemented? And Republicans would be even more eager to go along. “We have to support our President,” after all.
I bang my head on walls when democrats make that point, and repubs do not respond as you point out here.
My congressman was elected with a referendum to help beat obamacare or he will be removed.
A choice between Romney and Obama cannot be any sort of referendum on state-controlled health care in general, nor on mandated health insurance in particular.
Well, there was 2010, followed by 2012.
VERY good points.
Obamacare was made law back in the Zer0’s first term. It merely went into effect this month. So in a way, the “referendum” claim is correct, since each election since it became law was a chance to reverse it by putting politicians who were against it into office.
However, you are correct in the reasoning behind why they set it up to only come into effect after Zer0’s (potential at the time) second term.
Thank you. That's exactly the point of the rant.
And this isn't the only example. Republicans rarely seem to have the guts to respond to the continual onslaught of Democrat lies, and perhaps that's because those lies are repeated and endorsed by the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms. Which is another issue: Why are do many Republicans still run like scared bunny rabbits from the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms like they did 20 years ago when those newsrooms had a monopoly on the selection, dissemination, and spin of the daily news? Its 2013! Those newsrooms are dying, and most people now get their news from other sources.
If there was one thing that bugged me more than anything else about Bush's eight years, it was that he let himself be used as a punching bag, never responding. Even Rove has admitted that was a mistake.
You're contradicting yourself. How could there have been a referendum on something that didn't "come into effect" until after Ubama's re-election? All there was was a law that the ignorant chattering class knew nothing about. Like Pelosi said, it had to be passed to find out what's in it. And the people are only NOW finding out "what's in it".
If they want to talk about referendums, they should go back to the 2010 elections when it was fresh in people’s mind and resulting in the tea party avalanche that took control of the House.
Because even though people didn’t have to actually start buying plans until now, the law has been in place, and has been affecting businesses and taxes (among other things) for more than 2 years now. It doesn’t matter (to the left) that no one really knew what the effects of the law would be. To them, it should have been enough that the law was passed; any elections since then are “referendums” on the validity of the law.
A president, once elected, is still supposed to serve and look out for the best interests of ALL Americans, not just the ones that voted for him. Even Bill Clinton understood this. Barack Obama, the “Great Uniter,” is the most divisive president imaginable.
Yes. I have always viewed Ubama as “President of the Democrats of the United States”.
He has never been MY president, that’s for certain.
When I hear them say that, my reply is: “You mean the election where the IRS was enlisted to prohibit the Tea Party groups from getting tax exempt statuses in order to give O the win? That one!?!?” I just don’t understand how that one thing alone isn’t enough, not to mention Benghazi, to get congress off their asses for impeachment proceedings.
Any so called ‘referendum’ or other symbolic event was put on hold by the 2010 elections and the challenges laid before the Supreme Court in 2011.
Obamacare was passed using the ‘Chicago Way’ in March 2010 and the American people used in orderly fashion the available means to push back which were the voting booth and the courts. The 2010 election gave the House back to republicans to start in 2011 and the courts gave us the Roberts decision in the latter of 2012.
And the GOP establishment (GOPe) gave us in mid 2012 a RINO named Romney who with a 10 point lead could not have defeated even Carter.
And Texas gave us the Canadian anarchist and Cuban pirate Cruz who shakes the ground so powerfully that the bobblehead democrats and their shoulder parrots in the media bounce and squawk with fear and trepidation.
Who was it that said “I have not yet begun to fight!”? John Paul Jones. Well John Paul Cruz and John Paul Lee have spread the work to republicans to find their spines and prepare to fight.
And here we are in 2013.
The last election couldn’t possibly have been a referendum on socialized medicine, not with the creator of RomneyCare running against the inspiration for ObamaCare. In fact, the only reason an anti-American communist was able to come within the margin of fraud a second time was that so many conservatives despise both of the candidates.
The Referendum on Obamacare is underway. It began last Tuesday, October 1, 2013.
If you are an Obamacare fan you should be worried. You need some fair chunk of 7 million “votes” or so in the next 6 months to claim victory. After 4 days you have so few that your team won’t even tell us how many.
If you are not an Obamacare fan you should be heartened. It looks like a disaster right out of the gate with little chance of coming anywhere close to reaching the required goal.
Watch the Obamacare Enrollment numbers. Those are the votes. They will tell the tale over the coming weeks.
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