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In the message, the pontiff also urged government leaders to "confront socioeconomic imbalances and an unregulated globalisation, which are among some of the causes of migration movements in which individuals are more victims than protagonists."

As I carefully analyze the Holy Father's words, he at no point expresses or even remotely implies that illegal migration is acceptable. Of course, the lamestream media will twist his statements to suit their leftist diversity agenda. At least two of the Ten Commandments make it clear that illegal immigration is a sin against Almighty God: "Thou shalt not steal" and "Thou shalt not covet". Illegals commit both of these sins when they invade another country.

1 posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:55 AM PDT by re_nortex
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To: re_nortex
More like checkerboard of humanity.
2 posted on 09/25/2013 10:36:23 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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"situations of extreme poverty or persecution... millions of persons choose to migrate."

Millions choose? I don't feel comforted, it sounds like the same old liberal/Catholic/democrat/Kennedy message.

4 posted on 09/25/2013 11:07:38 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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Correct.

They are either lawful and welcome, or lawbreakers which the Bible tells us must be held to account.

They are not pawns.

But they may be criminals subject to incarceration or deportation. With humanity.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 11:07:43 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Ted Cruz for President!)
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Hey! Francis!

Mexico is a far wealthier country than the United States, it's just that all the wealth is owned by a few families.

Talk to the Mexican oligarchs before you start pointing fingers at us.

6 posted on 09/25/2013 11:11:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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More verbal gymnastics by others when this Pope speaks. Sigh.

For better or worse, and it is increasingly clear that this is for the worst, people are compelled to ‘explain’ what this Pope said. Once in a great while, this may be necessary, but when it happens all the time ... there is most likely a problem NOT with his being misunderstood, but rather that he says what he means.

I think we need to see him in the context of his being a South American Jesuit who (probably) cut his teeth on Liberation Theology.


9 posted on 09/25/2013 11:23:26 AM PDT by stisidore (MM, let's see here)
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so why does every Roman Catholic pope use them that way??


10 posted on 09/25/2013 11:31:40 AM PDT by Wuli
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” Of course, the lamestream media will twist his statements to suit their leftist diversity agenda.”

Well, of course they will. All part of the narrative. The are two things they won’t ever mention.

First, here is a link to his actual address:

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/09/24/popes_message_for_word_day_of_migrants_and_refugees_is_released/en1-731252

The first extract that won’t ever be mentioned:

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Pope Benedict XVI sketched the parameters of such policies, stating that they “should set out from close collaboration between the migrants’ countries of origin and their countries of destination; they should be accompanied by adequate international norms able to coordinate different legislative systems with a view to safeguarding the needs and rights of individual migrants and their families, and at the same time, those of the host countries” (Caritas in Veritate, 62).

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Note the last little bit: “...with a view to safeguarding the needs and rights...of the host countries.”

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The second quote:

It must also be emphasized that such cooperation begins with the efforts of each country to create better economic and social conditions at home, so that emigration will not be the only option left for those who seek peace, justice, security and full respect of their human dignity. The creation of opportunities for employment in the local economies will also avoid the separation of families and ensure that individuals and groups enjoy conditions of stability and serenity.

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Note the bit there about fixing the problems in the home countries, thus eliminating the perceived need to emigrate for financial reasons.

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I wonder why they don’t mention those little items? /sarc


14 posted on 09/25/2013 11:45:01 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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so why does every Roman Catholic pope use them that way??

as usual, as all his predecessors have done, he speaks in euphemisms and not plain talk, knowingly providing support for actions - illegal immigration - he has, via his euphemistic way of speaking given himsself “plausible deniability” of having actually said

because Roman Catholic Popes ONLY speak euphemestically on many important issues, and do not speak plainly concerning actual acts and actual examples of what they mean, leaving them for “interpretation” of what they mean in a real world sense

there meyhod of speaking in public on such matters makes them, to me, as lacking moral authority to speak in such matters

in teaching, Jesus often used parables and symbolizm, but to the public he most often spoke plainly and directly, mensing words with no one and without being theological

the popes are always political even when they are pretending not to be

in the U.S. situation, what are the cultures of the home countries of MOST illegal immigrants im the U.S.? Predominately Catholic cultures; yet this pope, like his predecessors goes blaming the world. I suggest he reserve his words for the need for reform to his own countries and remove the tree from their eye, the eye of his people and his church, before casting stones at the world and “globalization”.

the nations that provided the opportuntity for investment and work are not the problem as to why other nations failed to do that - that problem is internal to each nation and its own history

most illegal immigrants are fleeing neither political tyranny at home or lack of opportunity at home; they just think they have some natural right to go where an opportunity is better than where they are (and certainly where government bennies are better) and to hell with the legal aystem, the legal citizens and the rights of the legal citizens to determine the course of THEIR nation.

This pope IS defending what he refuses to say he is not defending, in plain language, and he knows it.


16 posted on 09/25/2013 11:58:38 AM PDT by Wuli
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The Pope did not have to use word “illegal” in front of migrant. Of course that is what he meant. There is no controversy over legal migration. The issue being debated is illegal immigration. So that is what he meant. To claim otherwise is absurd.

The Pope increasingly exposes his liberal leanings. He’s a liberal.


17 posted on 09/25/2013 11:59:35 AM PDT by plain talk
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Come on, guys! 18 responses and no Mongo? First thing I thought of.


20 posted on 09/25/2013 12:13:15 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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