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Intel proves once and for all that PCs are not coming back (Really?)
Semi -Accurate ^ | Sep 18, 2013 | Charlie Demerjian

Posted on 09/20/2013 11:02:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Intel proves once and for all that PCs are not coming back

IDF 2013: Rant - Dead and gone because that is what Intel wants for some reason

I went to IDF this year hoping to find a reason that PCs weren’t doomed and came away knowing all key players are actively making things worse. The PC isn’t just in trouble, it is actively being destroyed because no one involved is interested in changing.

Lets face it, the modern Windows 8 PC is a miserable experience, it is not a step forward from its predecessors in any measurable way but the steps backward are as numerous as they are obvious. The forthcoming Windows 8.1 is at best window dressing attempting to placate the critics without actually fixing any of their complaints.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
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To: Advil000

I agree with all of this. It’s funny, that during my career, Microsoft supporters were the “young” and IBM’ers were the “old”. Now, Microsoft is the “old”; keep in mind that IBM is still around.


61 posted on 09/20/2013 1:27:34 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: publius911

Big business hires morons? I don’t think so. They usually include the production giants that actually heavily utilize computers. Not all are just simpleton food retailers.


62 posted on 09/20/2013 1:32:07 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: publius911
The Cloud? That same concept did not catch on in 1960, and it sure won't this time. People and businesses rationally want control of their own data, without the easy access by hackers, inside criminals and the GUMMINT!

I don't trust them, their storage area etc. My work, my files on my machine. I need a keyboard and a mouse, to do real workI can't imagine trying to do CAD if I got a program on my machine without a mouse or Stylus.

And if they don't want to make these PC's in the future, some enterprising Freeper will start up Luddites Inc and make Linux PC's to do real work for us and they will retire healthy wealthy and wise...

63 posted on 09/20/2013 1:34:10 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: rarestia

Some folks will host. But it won’t be universal. Too many companies like to own their own data. And too many have issues with their network. Nobody wants to be in a situation where when the internet goes down productivity ends. Sorry but dumb terminals are the past, and the industry has been trying to re-package them for 20 years, they managed to find one that’s kind of popular but it won’t take things over. It still has too many of the problems that are why dumb terminals are the past.


64 posted on 09/20/2013 1:35:58 PM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: publius911

Yeah, we’re not there yet, but maybe a few years down the line when we all have cellular wifi.


65 posted on 09/20/2013 1:40:47 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: discostu

They’re not “dumb” in the traditional old green-screen, thin-net sort of dumb terminals. The WYSE terminals have local RAM, so even if the network is interrupted, whatever is cached in memory will continue to function. I played with distributed VDI at my last company with WYSE terminals, and they worked really well considering it was a hospital system. The nurses loved them; no more clunky desktops.

My current employer, a financial services company, would not likely implement it large scale due to the proprietary nature of the data and the need for 24/7 uninterrupted access to it.


66 posted on 09/20/2013 1:51:08 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: 867V309

My comparisons were with the operating systems available in the universe of operating systems, and available for study by designers of other operating systems at the time Windows 1.0 was being designed. The source codes of operating systems were generally freely released by the manufacturers in 1983. I know, I studied the microfiches myself. Imagine that, with all the BS talk nowadays of ‘open systems’ and other semi-meaningful buzzwords, as if everything was invented after the users of these buzzwords were born.

But you can win the argument since you really want to.


67 posted on 09/20/2013 1:53:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: roamer_1
Comparing DOS to NTVDM is absurd, without even mentioning PowerShell. One of the best new things in NTVDM is the innate ability to process lists in a FOR loop, making batch processing a cinch. Add to that the ability to use (and the improvement in) jscript, vbscript, and wscript (again, not even mentioning PowerShell), and there is no comparison whatsoever.

Good to know winders finally understands the concept of a 'for' loop.

It's hard to believe it's taken this long.

Too bad microsoft took so long to come to scripting table. (unix has had awesome scripting capabilities forever) Heck, even IBM DOS 7.0 had REXX, which was incredibly powerful. Especially since way back then, when I had either a 486 or maybe a Pentium, you could actually write a script in Rexx that would run on PCs running  DOS, and OS/2, then take that same script and run it on an actual mainframe without changes.

 

68 posted on 09/20/2013 1:56:34 PM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: zeugma

Thank you. The absurdity is Microsoft’s cripple of an operating system that’s come to dominate our desktops.


69 posted on 09/20/2013 1:59:29 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: rarestia

But they’re still dumb in the “if the network goes down so does all productivity” sense. Which is why industry moved away from them in the first place. Also there’s the additional problem that some companies are just starting to learn about that if you store all your data on somebody else’s server they now have all the power in your relationship, deciding they suck and you want all your stuff back can become a major undertaking.


70 posted on 09/20/2013 2:02:37 PM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: roamer_1
I'm kind of interested. How would one do the following in powershell?

$ scp data[1257]-a?.dat zeugma@foo.bar.com:mydata/.

(copy any file in the local directory that begin with "data" followed by any of the numbers 1,2,5 and 7, followed by  "-a", followed by any one single character, ending with ".dat". Copy it to the remote system "foo.bar.com" using my 'zeugma' userid and put it into a subdirectory called "mydata" that is under zeugma's home directory.

 

71 posted on 09/20/2013 2:06:26 PM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: Revolting cat!
Cool, FRiend. I love a good back-and-forth!

May the road rise up to meet you, may the wind be ever at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face and the rain fall softly on your fields. And until we meet again, May God hold you in the hollow of his hand.
72 posted on 09/20/2013 2:09:20 PM PDT by 867V309 (Stupidity is ordained; Ignorance is a choice.)
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To: 867V309

Super! Have a good one! I’m about to step out in the sunshine myself.


73 posted on 09/20/2013 2:12:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: MNDude

but if you ever want to create a document, presentation, or spreadsheet, you’ll always need a keyboard and mouse.”

Those of us that do real work have to have an adult sized keyboard and mouse - LOL!


74 posted on 09/20/2013 2:18:49 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There is no way I'll try to write a book, manage my finances, or do mathematical analyses on a tablet. If they keep crapping up PCs the way they did with Windows 8, I'll go back to using a Selectric. I managed to write books and articles on one of those before.
75 posted on 09/20/2013 2:34:22 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Can you still buy carbon paper? I think Windows 8 is okay. Mine works fine. Took about a day to get used to no start button. I went from home laptop with XP to home laptop with Windows 8. I’m not sure what all the big gripes are. It works. My biggest gripe??? I went from a Dell D630 to an Inspirion. The old docking station isn’t compatible and I had to buy a new USB docking station. You gotta upgrade every 6 or 7 years I guess. You would have thought Dell would keep that stuff consistent.


76 posted on 09/20/2013 2:48:29 PM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: JoeFromSidney
The worst W8 feature is the Start screen=huge stupid icons, steering you to moronic apps and the "app store". It's just marketing, and misguided integration with handheld devices. Who wants a touchscreen pc with fingerprints all over the screen, and having to reach, rather than mouse or keyboard input?

But the Start screen is configurable: uninstall all the "apps" and move all your most-used applications to the left of the screen. Now when you're on the desktop you can hit the Windows key and launch your favorite applications from the Start screen, easier than the old start button menu.

And, on my machine, W8 boots and shuts-down way way way fast, faster than XP ever did.

I installed VirtualBox (free) and a copy of XP so I can run any applications that won't install on W8 (like Adobe crap). Perfect.

Only thing I'm missing is Windows Media Center which only comes with W8 Pro, a $99 upgrade I won't pay.
77 posted on 09/20/2013 3:02:05 PM PDT by 867V309 (Stupidity is ordained; Ignorance is a choice.)
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To: 867V309

Apps?

On a desktop?

Good lord.


78 posted on 09/20/2013 3:04:52 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

But it’s fun to give them the ZOT!


79 posted on 09/20/2013 3:13:19 PM PDT by 867V309 (Stupidity is ordained; Ignorance is a choice.)
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To: 867V309

Is there a ZOT the Democrats app?


80 posted on 09/20/2013 3:14:12 PM PDT by GeronL
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