Another target rich environment.
They said serve people with guns, they describe it as a expressing a preference without any enforcement.
All Starbucks stores are now way too dangerous to do business in as they have now notified the criminal underworld that their customers and employees are completely defenseless.
Starbucks apparently wants their customers to be vulnerable to another sicko looking for easy pickings.
“I went to Starbucks for a shot of cappuccino, and instead I just got shot.”
They should have written the Notice in Cursive.
That way the Bad Guys (and Gals) wouldn’t know there was a Policy change.
So, I guess the Police can’t stop there for their Coffee Break, right?
Concealed means concealed. Unless they put metal detectors and armed guards at their stores I will continue to carry...and probably not do business there anyways.
All the CHPs are going to have to coffee elsewhere!
You can't be neutral. "None of the above" was not one of the offered answers.
You either stand with the Constitutional Right of citizens to keep and bear arms, or you don't.
There are no half measures.
You're with us or agin' us, and you have come down on the wrong side by trying to keep our business while telling us to not bring our arms inside.
Now, I ask you, where is that firearm more secure? In its holster, on my person, or in a vehicle outside, where the thug culture could break in and then use it to shoot up your store?
I, for one, will never put you in a position to worry about that question on my account. I'll just take my business (and my personal defense weapon) elsewhere.
Stupid is as stupid does: you tried to sit on the fence and instead impaled yourselves on the post.
Read the sheet carefully while they say they would prefer no guns they don’t disallow - this way they can tell the libbers they changed without really changing.,
I added this place to my list of never to shop at again at the first taste of overpriced burned coffee from “barrista Prima Donnas”. I always knew where my McDonald’s coffee came from, a family company called Gavina, and found it to be ten times better than Starburnts. Thank God I am not a coffee snob.
From my reading, they’re saying you’re still welcome in Starbucks with your guns. I think they mean that guns aren’t allowed in Starbucks alone, but if they happen to be carried by a customer that’s okay. :-)
Any realio-trulyio attorneys around? With out effective/constructive personal notice, that an associate barista may not give or post, is this policy without legal effect?
Would they ask a homosexual to leave if someone complained? Of course not. So to hell with Starbuck$.
If I went to Starbucks...which I don’t...
but if I did... this wouldn’t stop me, because I carry CONCEALED, PROPERLY and no one is the wiser. I am interested in self-defense, not open-carry grandstanding, which in this case backfired.
And CEO loves Obamacare.
I am 100% pro Second Amendment, the total Amendment.
Having said that, I must add that I detest activists, on both sides of any issue that distort reality just to be able to whine.
That is a grossly distorted, childish, neurotic headline having no relationship to the rest of the article.
As far as I can tell, reading the policy posted on this thread, Starbucks has NOT caved; they are just so confused that they printed a schizophrenic manual that no one can possibly understand.
I believe that anyone can carry in any Starbucks store and, so long as he does not become belligerent and abusive, he may not be harassed or asked to leave.
My favorite part of the "policy":
What if a customer asks, 'Am I no longer welcome in your store?'
Answer, "Everyone is welcome in our stores, but weapons are not."
A classic example of doublespeak, almost meaningless psychobabble.
I am waiting for the first report of a personless weapon being thrown out of a Starbucks.
Can we have some fun with this?
Let's list all the possible inanimate objects that are unwelcome at Starbucks, but may be asked to leave only if not attached to a living human being...
Does this policy apply to robbers and such also?
I guess it’s not safe there anymore.
I read the whole policy statement, and I believe there is no good option for them. Clearly, they tried to adhere to the Constitution in welcoming CCW into their stores.
At this point, they are right - both sides are squeezing them in a way there is no winning.
Now their policy is to indicate that CCW isn’t welcome, but if you come into a store and order coffee, nobody is going to trouble you about it.
The fact is, I’d rather not have to carry a gun for my own protection, but times have changed. I don’t welcome carrying a gun either, but I do.
I sympathize with Starbucks. I’m not a fan of their stuff, and I really had a hard time with their platitudes printed on their cups a few years ago. They stopped doing that.
It’s pretty clear they realize that drinking coffee is a bipartisan custom. Everything, everything we do today has become politicized. Both political parties are to blame for that - they have taken too many liberties with the founder’s original documents, and the SCOTUS allowed it all to stand.
If I need coffee, and there’s a Starbucks nearby, this policy isn’t going to keep me from spending my money there.
My two cents.