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1 posted on 09/17/2013 3:03:33 PM PDT by Lucky9teen
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To: Lucky9teen
“We have never had our soldiers walking around with weapons all the time, other than in combat zones,” he added

So? What do you say we change that? Terrorists have already targeted Americans on American soil, and American military bases. Our service personnel deserve the ability to protect themselves, or at least have that option.

2 posted on 09/17/2013 3:07:16 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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“We have never had our soldiers walking around with weapons all the time, other than in combat zones,” he added, noting only Military Police have had that authority.

I don't know how far back that goes, but I suspect quite a ways. I was in the army at a missile repair base out in the desert, back in the early 1960s. We were never armed, except when we were on "guard duty," stationed around the perimeter with its chain-linked fence and barbed wire. I put "guard duty" in parentheses, because we were issued rifles, but no ammunition.

And, yes, the MPs were armed, presumably so they could bring in any troublemakers when necessary. Their usual duty in my experience was dealing with drunks or speeders.

It's an old custom in most military organizations to keep the weapons in an armory, and only issue them when a battle is anticipated.

4 posted on 09/17/2013 3:12:52 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I went to Ft. Knox for basic in 1960, and no one had ammunition.

I served 8 year in the Md. National Guard and no one had ammunition—at least not officially.

As far as I know it has always been the policy of the military not to issue ammunition unless it’s considered needed.


6 posted on 09/17/2013 3:13:59 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Lucky9teen
“We have never had our soldiers walking around with weapons all the time, other than in combat zones,” he added, noting only Military Police have had that authority.

And in the Navy and Air Force only a very small percentage of the personnel are trained in the use of firearms beyond very basic training, and very few are even issued, or need to be issued any sort of weapon to do their job.

A higher percentage in the Army and Marine Corps would be trained and have weapons issued, but that would still be a minority unless in a combat zone.

The answer is probably increased security, or more military police who are armed and trained in police tactics.

7 posted on 09/17/2013 3:19:12 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Lucky9teen
This is all crap re-direction.
The question isn't why more military members aren't issued weapons while on base - it's why those in the military who are CHL carriers are not allow to carry their own weapons on base.

I imagine that would arm a small army right there.

9 posted on 09/17/2013 3:21:59 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: Lucky9teen

Of course, I still blame draft-dodging, American-hating, serial-lying Clinton. He was aware of the threats and nevertheless deliberately and intentionally chose inaction on the matter.


12 posted on 09/17/2013 3:25:49 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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Why are we dying in “no gun zones”?


13 posted on 09/17/2013 3:26:02 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation is really starting to suck.)
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Here`s how they do it in Pakistan.

They got nuts n` terrorists there, we got `em here-

WHAT`S THE DIFFERENCE??!!

21 posted on 09/17/2013 3:45:32 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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When I was in OCS, we trained on 45s....
Why? Just for fun? Cripes, train ‘em, let ‘em use ‘em.....


24 posted on 09/17/2013 3:51:11 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: Lucky9teen
“gun-free zone” type policy can actually be traced back to Department of Defense (DoD) Directive signed into effect in February 1992 by Donald J. Atwood, deputy secretary of defense under President George H.W.

Oh the Bush dynasty??

Could you post this in the "Day in the Life" thread?

The fans, or fanatics, will really appreciate it...

Be sure to describe the clothing he and Ms. Bush were wearing at the time, and post some attractive pics along with it.

Thanks!!!

25 posted on 09/17/2013 3:51:25 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Lucky9teen
Army regulation 190-14 actually implements a policy put in under George H.W. Bush, meaning Bill Clinton is not responsible for a lack of armed personnel on military bases.

This is only meaningful it this policy was a significant change from the previous policy, which is unlikely. More likely just a restatement.

Until somebody posts something showing that previous policy allowed or required soldiers to be armed on base.

28 posted on 09/17/2013 3:56:28 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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Somebody should ask what happened to all the MPs that were relied upon after these orders to disarm the soldiers were issued. They’re not there because they’re in Afghanistan, teaching Afghans how to shoot our MPs in the back.


29 posted on 09/17/2013 4:01:21 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Lucky9teen

Hey, look! It’s Bush’s fault!


45 posted on 09/17/2013 5:19:03 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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No matter who issued it, it’s bad policy. Yesterday’s horror proves that.


46 posted on 09/17/2013 5:21:07 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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“We have never had our soldiers walking around with weapons all the time, other than in combat zones,”

Since 9/11/01, the entire United States is a combat zone.

47 posted on 09/17/2013 5:22:26 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Lucky9teen

Bush 1 and every president since is responsible for keeping this policy in effect.


51 posted on 09/17/2013 5:29:49 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Lucky9teen

I grew up on Army bases, from the early fifties to the mid sixties. I don’t recall ever seeing anyone except MPs openly carrying weapons on a regular basis.


60 posted on 09/17/2013 7:56:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Thanks!


66 posted on 09/18/2013 10:54:19 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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