Posted on 09/05/2013 4:23:05 PM PDT by Kartographer
When it hits the fan America’s population centers will explode in violence, looting, and total breakdown of law and order.
It’s a theory put forth by numerous survival and relocation specialists, and one that makes complete sense if you consider what happens in a truly serious collapse-like scenario.
Survival Blog founder James Rawles calls them the golden horde:
Because of the urbanization of the U.S. population, if the entire eastern or western power grid goes down for more than a week, the cities will rapidly become unlivable. I foresee that there will be an almost unstoppable chain of events:
Power -> water -> food distribution -> law and order -> arson fires -> full scale looting
(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...
15 miles outside of Orlando, Florida. septic and well (as long as the power lasts or as long as gas for the generator lasts. Everyone on my street is armed to the teeth and we will all support each other. I’m ready and not worried. Bring it on.
As someone who lives in the Lowcountry of SC, I’d roll the dice with Greenville County any day or night over Richland County (Columbia) or Charleston County (home to several People’s Republics)!
Hampton, Norfolk, Newport News... Evacuate to Gloucester and blow the Coleman. I’ll be waiting on my boat for you.
The Berkshires look OK. ;o)
Is it marked on the map? Guilford was.
LOL! Hear you loud and clear!!!!!!
SHTF:
First day: all food disappears from stores.
Second day: civilization ceases in high population areas, city rabble killing everyone with any property.
Third day: government forces confiscate everything from everyone in low population areas, killing most people.
Fourth day: government transports city refugees out to repopulate the now empty low population areas.
Fifth day: no one left knows how to make the economy go.
No I was just saying it would be a good place to be.
Surrounded by (North) Fulton, Gwinnett and Cobb - although I suspect that most areas they are talking about are Buford, Lawrenceville, Smyrna, East Point, Grant Park, etc.
We’re at the tri-corner of Forsyth, Fulton and Gwinnett. Suwanee address but closer to Cumming. We’re four miles into our neighborhood with the Hooch at our back. We feel pretty secure...but 400 and 85 do run about six miles away.
Cambodia/Zimbabwe.
Third try’s a charm; surely they’ll get it right this time.
< /rolling eyes>
I wouldn’t want to be near the Perimeter. 400, 285 and Marta. Assuming trains were running, but perhaps EBT went down or stores weren’t getting supplies, it is a straight shot right into the burbs.
The article brings up Hurricane Rita and the backed up/stopped cars on Hwy. 45 going to Dallas. Hwy. 45 starts (or ends), in Galveston and if going to Dallas, stay on 45 though Houston and keep going through my town and keep going north.
I live about 6 blocks from that Hwy. and knew those cars were all stopped on that highway. What isn’t told, is, the cars couldn’t get off. Barricades were at every exist, no car could leave Hwy. 45. Not a single car could get off 45 as it went through my town. In an emergency situation that is out of control, cars will not have to stay on that highway, they can get off at any exit from Galveston to Dallas.
Plus, there won’t be a hurricane coming in at Galveston, so cars could go anywhere - in other words, they won’t be limited to going north or west to get out of the way of a hurricane. They can go south or east or west and be on any road anywhere, don’t have to stay on an interstate.
The point is, it won’t be as bad on 45 or I10 going to San Antonio as it is when there is a hurricane and they won’t be jammed up on one or two days as happened with Rita. It was really the day before Rita that was so bad.
So, I don’t think the Rita example works for another type of emergency.
I live in one of the counties colored on that map and I spoke to that on the other thread about 50% of the population live in those counties. I’ll only repeat one thing I said on the other thread. My county, Montgomery County, Texas, is very large and most of it is country rural. There are close to 400,000 in the county but because it is large and the towns are not huge, one can get in country living in a few minutes from any of those towns. Two minutes in my car and I’m in the country and I live in town. We are spread out in this county so it doesn’t have an big inner city slum.
I expect every male and many women in this county have more than one firearm. We don’t have liberals in this county - oh, maybe there is a handful but they keep their mouth shut as we are about 97%+ conservative, the most Republican county in Texas.
So, I don’t think just because one lives in a populous county, means you’re going to die if the SHTF. The size of the county, size of towns and the liberal or conservative numbers matter.
we’re surrounded.
“I would guess that the author failed to take into account that not all urban areas are created equal.”
Yep, and the author doesn’t realize the urban Philly folk will not make it to Lancaster County and rural Lancaster County, including the amish have long used guns for hunting.
Being near any major city or high crime area should be enough of an idea. If you are a tank full of gas from any major city or 50% population city you are at risk the second day. Not from everyone, just the 10% who hate.
Did that PA county map move Pittsburgh towards Ohio?
I agree. The veneer of civilization is thin.
You’ll have the same task we here in Teller county have - hold the mouth of the pass. Teller has the highest per capita gun ownership in Colorado and ~ the 6th highest in the nation. I think I’ll find plenty of good company when I report for duty at the Cave of the Winds on Hwy 24...
think long string and 3” pvc pipe for the well once power runs out....just make sure you tie the string off first :0
Well, our police do have an armored truck, so at least we’ve got that going for us.
;-P
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