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Radar Detects Concealed Carry Weapon
Western Shooting Journal ^ | 8/14/2013 | J Hin

Posted on 08/14/2013 8:57:09 AM PDT by liizo

Electrical engineering Professor Kamal Sarabandi of University of Michigan is on to something for public safety. He has been working on using radar technology that can scan a person from a distance to detect concealed firearms. Looking forward, just seems like my rights are being violated, and cops may be using to profile. westernshootingjournal.com/technology/radar-for-detecting-concealed-carry-weapon/

What do you all think?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; privacy; radar; secondamendment; technology; tyranny
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1 posted on 08/14/2013 8:57:09 AM PDT by liizo
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To: liizo

This technology already exists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millimeter_wave_scanner


2 posted on 08/14/2013 8:58:35 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: liizo

you need a warrant as far as I can determine


3 posted on 08/14/2013 8:59:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

you need a warrant as far as I can determine

Not to mention the radiation hazard.


4 posted on 08/14/2013 9:02:20 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: liizo

I see a boom in new holsters and outerwear featuring RAM, (Radar Absorbent Material). Sometime I think we are witnessing a new arms race but on a more personal level than we’ve ever seen before. Sort of like ‘Cold War’ at the local level instead of between nations.


5 posted on 08/14/2013 9:03:44 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: liizo

I see a future for radar jamming equipment perhaps as small as a cell phone to be carried on the person or as large as one needs to screw with radar near the home. If people can randomly generate radar for invasive purposes, I claim the right to randomly screw with it.


6 posted on 08/14/2013 9:15:52 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: liizo

How difficult would it be to build a polarimetric radar detector and jammer?


7 posted on 08/14/2013 9:17:29 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: muir_redwoods
I see a future for radar jamming equipment perhaps as small as a cell phone to be carried on the person or as large as one needs to screw with radar near the homeM

The police are allowed to invade your privacy. You, comrade, are NOT allowed to screw with police radar. Radar jammers for speed radar exist, but they are illegal. In the Peoples' Democracy of Virginia, you're not even allowed to detect their surveillance with a radar detector. Heil 0bama

8 posted on 08/14/2013 9:19:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: muir_redwoods

“If people can randomly generate radar for invasive purposes, I claim the right to randomly screw with it.”

Yeah, that defense works real good for the people with radar detectors/jammers in their vehicles.


9 posted on 08/14/2013 9:19:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: EdReform
How difficult would it be to build a polarimetric radar detector and jammer?

Not easy and not cheap especially at millimeter wavelengths.

10 posted on 08/14/2013 9:20:46 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: The Working Man

Once police deploy this technology, just wearing a radar reflective poncho or whatnot will be seen as probable cause for a stop & frisk. You wouldn’t be wearing it if you weren’t hiding something.


11 posted on 08/14/2013 9:21:39 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: liizo

Kamal Sarabandi?

Does the radar have a muslim exception?


12 posted on 08/14/2013 9:29:44 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Boogieman

As I understand it RAM doesn’t reflect, it absorbs thereby reducing the return back to the Radar, transmitter/receiver.

On the other hand looking into my crystal ball I see a possibility of tuned EMP that will drive the costs of using that technology even higher.


13 posted on 08/14/2013 9:36:58 AM PDT by The Working Man
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14 posted on 08/14/2013 9:45:17 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: mountainlion
As I recall, simple helium-filled Mylar baloons already cause major headaches with small-sized airport radars, probably because they are relatively low powered and expect a very tiny return on the pulse echo. I would suspect that the low-powered radar emitters LE uses would be hampered by similar difficulties. Your cheapest microwave oven uses more power.

For slightly higher power useage a double layer of mylar with even some aluminum sandwiched between would be helpful although I would recommend only a single layer of higher-density mylar material instead. If you need a demonstration of why two or more layers are a bad idea with anything above medium-power emitters, and you do not mind taking a chance on burning out your test unit, try placing a couple of sheets of mylar or aluminum in a microwave oven for a couple of seconds then view the results afterwards. LE does not use anything above very low-power devices because cooking someone while attempting to radar scan them is not going to make them any friends -and just wait until someone tries to play 'laser tag' with one of the units on-duty.

Note: I come from an RF background; trust what I am warning you about here.

15 posted on 08/14/2013 9:47:44 AM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! <- In muzlim world are only fast goats & slow boys. Slow goats all dead. ->)
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To: from occupied ga

Would the detector alone be cheaper? I guess you could jam the thing with lead.


16 posted on 08/14/2013 9:53:57 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: liizo

The current legal status would be linked very strongly to the expectation of privacy. When you are out in public, your expectation of privacy is reduced. According to SCOTUS, in it’s ruling on Terry vs Ohio held that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person “may be armed and presently dangerous.

However, the very NATURE of a concealed weapon is the expectation of privacy. It would follow then, that as long as you are not committing, or can not be reasonably suspected as having committed a crime, that a warrant would be necessary to use this device. Further, if the device is used without warrant, without any other reasonable cause, the officer would have no grounds for detention.

But you never know how the courts are going to rule.

It would seem to me though that this technology might be most appropriate for a security checkpoint as it might be better than current detection equipment.


17 posted on 08/14/2013 9:54:55 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Utilizer

A person with a sheet of aluminum foil in their coat say a hamburger wrapper could cause a false reading and a false stop and generate a complaint of Civil Rights violation.


18 posted on 08/14/2013 10:07:07 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: liizo

I think that if the irradiate you without a warrant or your consent... that you can sue them.


19 posted on 08/14/2013 10:08:38 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: liizo; zot

I wonder if my stainless steel hip replacement looks like a gun or just an aging hippy?


20 posted on 08/14/2013 10:09:03 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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