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Parents Charged After Baby Dies In Hot Moving Car With No A/C
Jalopnik ^ | 08/12/2013 | Patrick George

Posted on 08/13/2013 12:24:06 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd

Until my mid-teens, we didn’t even have a car with AC. Wasn’t a crime back then, shouldn’t be one now.


21 posted on 08/13/2013 12:35:41 PM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

They used common sense. They put blocks of ice on the floorboards. They stopped once an hour. They kept coolers full of drinks. Back in those days - Mama held the baby - it was not kept hidden away in a carseat in the back seat - and so if the baby even began looking distressed, they stopped and made sure it was OK.


22 posted on 08/13/2013 12:36:53 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
My first car didn't have air. It had a black interior, too. I had to put a heavy blanket across the vinyl front seat in summer or the heat would blister the backs of my legs. The rear windows were messed up and couldn't be lowered. Long summer drives were hot, sweaty affairs. I used to always carry an extra shirt to change into when I got to my destination.

it was a PITA but nobody ever died in that car.

23 posted on 08/13/2013 12:37:13 PM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
What on earth did people do in the past when cars didn’t have a/c ?

Babies usually rode in the front , either in the mothers arms or strapped in a tiny car seat in between the driver and passenger where they could be constantly checked .

Now with all the laws that force babies to ride in the back the parents are not as attentive to what is going on in the back seat and they are being forgotten.

In really hot places your front seat can be much cooler than your backseat even with ac running

24 posted on 08/13/2013 12:39:00 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Paid attention.


25 posted on 08/13/2013 12:39:48 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: 2banana

You better believe this doesn’t smell right.

I’m almost expecting a medical report to issue findings of an underlying fatal condition in the child.

One window rolled down driving at highway speeds should have provided adequate ventilation to the entire car.

If there were no underlying medical condition, then the parents did something criminal to the child.


26 posted on 08/13/2013 12:40:30 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: chae; gov_bean_ counter

No, they were traveling. There is proof that they did not leave the baby unsupervised in a hot car.

They were only 30 minutes away from their destination when they stopped - read the article, read the link in the article - and found the baby unresponsive.

Actually they left the baby to die in a hot car - WHILE THEY WERE ALL IN IT DRIVING THROUGH OKLAHOMA.

(caps for emphasis - not shouting)


27 posted on 08/13/2013 12:41:22 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: fwdude; Responsibility2nd

My theory is that we’ve always had a certain portion of the population that was idjits. Now, we’ve more people, so while that percentage is the same, it’s a larger number simply because there’s more people.

Of course, 24x7 news cycle makes this more newsworthy, on top the world wide reach of internet news makes this from a “local tragedy”, to a “worldwide phenomena of abandoned babies”.


28 posted on 08/13/2013 12:42:09 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Rolled down more than one darn window and paid attention to their baby.


29 posted on 08/13/2013 12:42:11 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Resolute Conservative

“Ahh those glorious cross country trips with 100+ air hitting you and your 3-4 siblings (sitting on the bench seat with no seat belts) in the face in the back seat.”

lol! Are you my sibling? You forgot to mention perspiring and sticking to the hot vinyl seats with the others griping about bodies overlapping each other ( two of the 4 had long legs).


30 posted on 08/13/2013 12:42:16 PM PDT by texteacher
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To: Resolute Conservative
And biking without helmets. Heck, playing football with helmets.

How did we survive???

Ahh those glorious cross country trips with 100+ air hitting you and your 3-4 siblings (sitting on the bench seat with no seat belts) in the face in the back seat.

31 posted on 08/13/2013 12:42:49 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The kids sat in the front seat in the old days. Pretty hard to forget about the kid when it’s right next to you.


32 posted on 08/13/2013 12:43:53 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: cripplecreek
I drove up to Michigan from Texas with an infant in the car and I doubt we went more than 5 minutes without checking on her.

As most responsible parents or guardians would. I have to wonder, did this poor child cry? Did she make any sound or just wither away? Babies generally let you know when they are not happy which leads me to believe the parents are just like my neighbors and just allowed their baby to cry with the hope it would cry itself to sleep. While that's not always a bad thing, in a hot car on a 100 degree day requires a more proactive approach.

33 posted on 08/13/2013 12:43:59 PM PDT by South40
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To: texteacher

Drinking real coke, at ambient temperature, from a real bottle then having to use said bottle to relieve oneself.


34 posted on 08/13/2013 12:44:05 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: fwdude

Actually C has a lot to do with it. Yeah babies dieing are newsworthy, but really only local newsworthy. But in this modern internet age there’s no such thing as local news, it’s ALL national and even international. This is an incident that happened in Oklahoma, got reported in Ohio, then got picked up by where ever Jalopnik is and now here we are talking about it. 20 years ago it would have been reported where it happened and MAYBE where the parents were from, and nobody that doesn’t live in those two areas would have heard about it.


35 posted on 08/13/2013 12:44:29 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
“Relevant to the situation are notes that the parents had the State remove previous children from these two due to neglect.”

Based on this previous history, would bet they stopped and left the baby in the car while they did “x”, and baby died, then made up this story of baby died while car was moving.

There was no air conditioning when I was growing up and people didn't feel the heat like they do now. These days, our bodies are recalibrated to being cooler, and we can't deal with the heat.

36 posted on 08/13/2013 12:44:57 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Responsibility2nd

Act of God. At 100 degrees F, having the windows rolled down probably wouldn’t have helped anything.


37 posted on 08/13/2013 12:45:09 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: 2banana

What people do not realize is that infants cannot self regulate temp like adults.

ERs are full of people with babies with temps because they have the babies bundled up on a hot day.

Tragic situation.


38 posted on 08/13/2013 12:45:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Mama held the baby - it was not kept hidden away in a carseat in the back seat

There you are. *That* is the chief difference. Now, however, for safety reasons, it is illegal to do this. But as you point out, it has led to other dangers.

39 posted on 08/13/2013 12:45:40 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: South40

We brought the new pup home in June and the AC flipped out during the 3+ hour ride back.

I held a big squirming, hot Dobe pup on my insufficient lap the whole way home just so I could keep her belly turned toward the AC vents in order for her to get as much of the cool air as was available.

We stopped frequently for cold water to soak towels in, as well.

And that’s just for a dog, mind you.


40 posted on 08/13/2013 12:45:46 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...the clowns will eat me.)
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