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To possibly restore the American republic, the 17th Amendment must go.
1 posted on 08/03/2013 4:16:25 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: 1010RD; Repeal The 17th; Bratch; 5thGenTexan; Greysard; lone star annie; boxlunch; ...

17th Ping!


2 posted on 08/03/2013 4:18:18 PM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Jacquerie

I think they are working on it. But not in a helping manner.


3 posted on 08/03/2013 4:18:47 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Jacquerie

“...As head of his party, the president has enormous influence over
the disbursement of senatorial campaign funds to party members...”
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That does not explain the motivation of the opposition party.


4 posted on 08/03/2013 4:24:18 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Jacquerie
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5 posted on 08/03/2013 4:24:44 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Jacquerie

Why is this in “chat” where no one will see it?


6 posted on 08/03/2013 4:26:02 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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An over-abundance of democracy is strangling what remains of our republic. It is time to step back and look objectively at what ails us. The source of our sickness, the open and self-inflicted wound that welcomed the bacteria of democratic majoritarianism to grow in a once healthy body politic is the 17th Amendment. If we are to possibly return to republican freedoms, senators must once again be immune from popular emotions and demagogic presidents. The 17th must go.

WHAT AMERICANS USE TO KNOW ABT THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

The first several generations of Americans understood that the Declaration of Independence was the ultimate states’ rights document. The citizens of the states would delegate certain powers to a central government in their Constitution, and these powers (mostly for national defense and foreign policy purposes) would hopefully be exercised for the benefit of the citizens of the "free and independent" states, as they are called in the Declaration.

The understanding was that if American citizens were in fact to be the masters rather than the servants of government, they themselves would have to police the national government that was created by them for their mutual benefit. If the day ever came that the national government became the sole arbiter of the limits of its own powers, then Americans would live under a tyranny as bad or worse than the one the colonists fought a revolution against.

As the above quotation denotes, the ultimate natural law principle behind this thinking was Jefferson’s famous dictum in the Declaration of Independence that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, and that whenever that consent is withdrawn the people of the free and independent states, as sovereigns, have a duty to abolish that government and replace it with a new one if they wish.

This was the fundamental understanding of the meaning of the Declaration of Independence – that it was a Declaration of Secession from the British empire – of the first several generations of Americans. As the 1, 107-page book, Northern Editorials on Secession shows, this view was held just as widely in the Northern states as in the Southern states in 1860- 1861. Among the lone dissenters was Abe Lincoln, a corporate lawyer/lobbyist/politician with less than a year of formal education who probably never even read The Federalist Papers.

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DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE PREAMBLE “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...”

What came after the Declaration of Independence was the "bill of particulars" against the colonial ruler--King George III ---that justified the declaration and subsequent colonial rebellion.

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance,” reads one of Jefferson’s indictments against the king.

(Amply describes the Obama juggernaut against Americans.)

9 posted on 08/03/2013 4:42:22 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Jacquerie

Hear here! These so called senators are nothing more than peoples’ representatives on steroids with a snotty attitude locked in for six year terms. Let’s get back to The Constitution!


10 posted on 08/03/2013 4:43:13 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us about 0bama's America)
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To: Jacquerie
Picture in your mind’s eye a day when GOP senators ignore the only slightly veiled public threats of Obama, and the rants of a corrupt media.

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Ahhhhh, someday I will...

13 posted on 08/03/2013 5:33:24 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Jacquerie

Excellent article


14 posted on 08/03/2013 5:33:45 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 94)
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To: Jacquerie

Unfortunately, the biggest problem is the 16th Amendment.

As long as the federal government controls 25% of the GDP, special interest groups will pore massive amounts of money into Senate campaigns. No matter how they’re elected (with a few exceptions), Senators are bought and paid for by the monied elite.


17 posted on 08/03/2013 5:56:05 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Jacquerie

This is most certainly true. The members of the federated republic are the several (50) states. But they do not have representation in the legislative body, as member states, by senators of their choosing.


22 posted on 08/03/2013 6:36:26 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Jacquerie

The 19th Amendment also needs to go. Women are a majority of voters and are feminizing thereby the nation. Woman as a group vote to be taken care of. I vote for the conservative candidate in elections and primaries and more and more that candidate is a woman. That is good in the short term but the implications for the longer term are for more feminization of the nation. A feminine nation cannot compete in the world with a masculine power such as is China and such is Islam and even a resurgent Russia.


24 posted on 08/03/2013 6:55:59 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Jacquerie

Repeal of the 17th Amendment, Term Limits, and a Balanced Budget Amendment


29 posted on 08/04/2013 9:39:15 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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