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Massive solar flare narrowly misses Earth, EMP disaster barely avoided
Washington Examiner ^ | 7/31/13 | PAUL BEDARD

Posted on 07/31/2013 12:02:01 PM PDT by Kartographer

Two EMP experts told Secrets that the EMP flashed through earth's typical orbit around the sun about two weeks before the planet got there.

"The world escaped an EMP catastrophe," said Henry Cooper, who lead strategic arms negotiations with the Soviet Union under President Reagan, and who now heads High Frontier, a group pushing for missile defense.

"There had been a near-miss about two weeks ago, a Carrington-class coronal mass ejection crossed the orbit of the Earth and basically just missed us," said Peter Vincent Pry, who served on the Congressional EMP Threat Commission from 2001-2008. He was referring to the 1859 EMP named after astronomer Richard Carrington that melted telegraph lines in Europe and North America.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy
KEYWORDS: carrington; carringtonevent; cme; coronalmassejection; emp; maunderminimum; peterpry; petervincentpry; prepparedness; preppers; pry; solarflares; sun
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To: RFEngineer

I really appreciate your persistence on this thread. Stunning unwillingness to learn displayed by others.

What an extra-atmospheric nuclear burst does to excite the atmosphere is so much different than what “the solar wind” does.

Never give in ;-)


161 posted on 08/01/2013 6:22:48 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Blueflag

“What an extra-atmospheric nuclear burst does to excite the atmosphere is so much different than what “the solar wind” does.”

Thank you......it’s important that people be armed with facts as best as we can . This topic generates lots of misinformation. Some of it deliberate by folks that wish to take advantage of others, some of it because some folks don’t know any better.


162 posted on 08/01/2013 6:28:16 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Old Sarge

This is actually readable http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm

HEMP and heave. Remember that . Nuclear EMP HEMP is a first world killer. heave is a disrupter.


163 posted on 08/01/2013 6:29:16 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Kartographer
The 1859 EMP event melted telegraph lines in Europe and North America.

Where'd you find that, Mr. Bedard? Detailed accounts abound, but there is no evidence (I can find) that the lines melted.

Many telegraph lines across North America were rendered inoperable on the night of August 28 as the first of two successive solar storms struck. E.W. Culgan, a telegraph manager in Pittsburgh, reported that the resulting currents flowing through the wires were so powerful that platinum contacts were in danger of melting and “streams of fire” were pouring forth from the circuits. In Washington, D.C., telegraph operator Frederick W. Royce was severely shocked as his forehead grazed a ground wire. According to a witness, an arc of fire jumped from Royce’s head to the telegraphic equipment. Some telegraph stations that used chemicals to mark sheets reported that powerful surges caused telegraph paper to combust.

On the morning of September 2, the magnetic mayhem resulting from the second storm created even more chaos for telegraph operators. When American Telegraph Company employees arrived at their Boston office at 8 a.m., they discovered it was impossible to transmit or receive dispatches. The atmosphere was so charged, however, that operators made an incredible discovery: They could unplug their batteries and still transmit messages to Portland, Maine, at 30- to 90-second intervals using only the auroral current. Messages still couldn’t be sent as seamlessly as under normal conditions, but it was a useful workaround. By 10 a.m. the magnetic disturbance abated enough that stations reconnected their batteries, but transmissions were still affected for the rest of the morning.


164 posted on 08/03/2013 11:38:53 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: cripplecreek
C = πD
D=2 * 93*10^6 miles
C ~ 600 million miles
Period = 52 weeks
"Miss" = 2 weeks
∴ (600 * 10^6 * 2) / 52 ~ 4% of 600 million
~ 24 million miles.

Give or take.

PS: I checked using Excel and correct distance Earth to Sun. Got 22.5 million. Close enough.

165 posted on 08/03/2013 11:50:21 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Aqua225

When the oil rigs die, the field oil pumps die, the oil line pumps die, the refineries die, the trains hauling tank cars die, the local tanker trucks die, and the pumps at the local gas station die, you may have some difficulty finding fuel for your generators. A big enough EMP and we are in for some serious trouble. No water, no sewage treatment, no food production, no shipping or logistics, no way to run the factories to produce the replacement electrical transformers. We would be in a world of hurt.


166 posted on 08/03/2013 11:54:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: carriage_hill

I am not going through a credit card validation so no thanks.


167 posted on 08/03/2013 5:27:36 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker

Try is one:

https://rapidshare.com/#!download|998p1|3017234399|One.Second.After.rar|2273|0|0|1|referer-23469A57AD9A13C1421BADDC21A40180


168 posted on 08/03/2013 5:38:44 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.i)
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To: Eaker

Here’s another free one; I used it for my copy:

http://ebookbrowsee.com/william-r-forstchen-one-second-after-pdf-d373585838


169 posted on 08/03/2013 5:41:16 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.i)
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To: InvisibleChurch

“I wonder if NASA invented thunderstorms to cover up the sound of space battles?”

I did some work at Homestead Air Force Base. Although it had been destroyed by the hurricane a year or two earlier. The Air Force guy was briefing us in the early morning of hazards at the site, and at the end said “You need to be in your vehicles at 1630 hours, as a thunderstorm will be rolling through at 1703.”

I made a quip of “You sure it won’t be 1700!?”

He glared at me and said “1703”

Nine hours late, the storm hit at 1703! I suppose with just ocean around they can get pretty accurate - but I always figured they have MUCH better equipment to track stuff than the news channels do. Spooky.

Of course - now you got me thinking.....!


170 posted on 08/03/2013 5:57:01 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: carriage_hill

Thanks!


171 posted on 08/03/2013 6:23:45 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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