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Controversial JFK Documentary Theory: President Was Killed by Accidental Secret Service Shot
yahoo.com ^ | July 30, 2013 | Kimberly Potts |

Posted on 07/30/2013 10:20:03 PM PDT by grundle

ReelzChannel is getting back into the Kennedy family business, and once again likely to make some waves. In November, the network that aired the Emmy-winning 2011 miniseries "The Kennedys" will debut "JFK: The Smoking Gun," a new documentary offering the theory that John F. Kennedy was killed, not by Lee Harvey Oswald’s rifle, but by the friendly-fire bullet of an inexperienced Secret Service agent.

"The only possible gun that could have been in that area is that Secret Service gun. So the finding is that it was an accidental discharge. Nobody's claiming anybody did anything wrong. But at the time, in the middle of the Cold War ... remember, it wasn't a time that the U.S. government would have liked to admit a botched security detail in the most important mission they had."

According to Hubbard's explanation of the docudrama, the timeline of the events of Nov. 22, 1963, will go something like this:

After Lee Harvey Oswald fired an initial shot at the Kennedy motorcade in Dealey Plaza in Dallas, a Secret Service agent named George Hickey responded. Hickey, an inexperienced agent who had never been on follow-up car duty, grabbed his AR-15 Secret Service rifle and, while standing in the back of the car that was behind the Kennedy vehicle in the motorcade, fired a shot, he hoped, towards the enemy fire. But the car he was riding in suddenly lurched forward, and, the theory suggests, Hickey's hand faltered, sending his bullet towards the president’s head. Oswald had fired a second shot that also hit Kennedy, but it was not necessarily the shot that fatally wounded JFK, according to the theory.

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To: Gadsden1st

Ah. I think I misunderstood your original post, then. My mistake.


101 posted on 07/31/2013 2:33:45 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: fabian

Well, like I said, if it’s so obvious that you can deduce the trajectories by common sense, then common sense must qualify one to be a forensic expert. Why people are pursuing degrees to qualify for those jobs is beyond me, when you can just look at an 8mm film and deduce what happened.


102 posted on 07/31/2013 3:35:24 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: fabian; All
there is so much obvious evidence for a coup and multiple shooters it is not even funny. Your question is a non sequitor. I am sorry you have lost so much of your commonsense...really I am.

So you haven't actually ever been to the site and walked it yourself, eh Sherlock?


103 posted on 07/31/2013 3:56:15 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: tomdavidd

It wasn’t my uncle’s gun!


104 posted on 07/31/2013 4:01:09 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: The KG9 Kid

You have your opinions and I have mine.Lets just leave it there.


105 posted on 07/31/2013 4:58:36 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Timber Rattler

That is a lame debating point. I was not at Omaha beach on d day either but could clearly see from the footage that those pillboxes were mowing down our troopers. I could also clearly see Jfk sustaining multiple shots and the killer one blew the back of his head back and out. Then a multitude of people rushed the knoll area. I mean, how dumb can one be to be blind to the very obvious. Sort of sad.


106 posted on 07/31/2013 5:21:27 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Impala64ssa; a fool in paradise

Other than that, Mrs Kennedy, how was the drive through Dallas in a in brand new 64 Chevy convertible?


107 posted on 07/31/2013 5:30:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: grundle
Somebody once said (tongue in cheek) that it was an accident: Kennedy was cleaning a gun in the Book Depository when it went off and shot him in the limo a couple of hundred feet away.

That makes about as much sense as this.

FWIW, the Kennedys were in touch with the Chicago mob. Ruby was a mob hanger-on. Isn't it more likely that the Kennedys conspired to have Oswald taken out than that Oswald was part of a conspiracy against Kennedy?

I'm not saying that they did, just that more of a connection was there between Giancana and the Kennedys than between some of the principal figures in other conspiracy theories.

108 posted on 07/31/2013 5:31:15 PM PDT by x
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To: fabian

109 posted on 07/31/2013 6:48:31 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

nice try...but is is kooky to not see the obvious here!


110 posted on 07/31/2013 8:15:16 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Timber Rattler
I never bought into the storm drains or umbrella-dart theories but it isn't enough to analyze the shots, one must look at the mangled forensic evidence as well. In addition any detailed analysis of Oswald will bring up too many inconsistencies about his movements and whereabouts 1959-1963. Ruby's background is also very suspicious. I see the mob as deeply involved too.
Oslwald was capable of firing a shot but his movements immediately after the shooting are bizarre.
111 posted on 07/31/2013 10:38:03 PM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: grundle

Pretty sure LHO did he shooting on his own, but....there’s a lot of strange things that happened around him that had some kind of U.S. intelligence connection attached to him. I suspect Oswald was some low level street contact, and when TSHTF American intelligence wen into a panic & messed up the case somewhat by trying to get some distance from him.


112 posted on 07/31/2013 10:57:02 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: fabian
"I could also clearly see Jfk sustaining multiple shots and the killer one blew the back of his head back and out. Then a multitude of people rushed the knoll area. I mean, how dumb can one be to be blind to the very obvious. Sort of sad."

There is no evidence that the back of his head was blown out.

Some people ran up to the knoll later, but not because anyone shot from there. They weren't chasing some guy with a gun. Does that really make sense to you? You think that's what people would do?

113 posted on 07/31/2013 11:07:13 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Netz
"I never bought into the storm drains or umbrella-dart theories but it isn't enough to analyze the shots, one must look at the mangled forensic evidence as well."

What mangled forensic evidence?

"In addition any detailed analysis of Oswald will bring up too many inconsistencies about his movements and whereabouts 1959-1963."

Inconsistencies? I don't think so.

"Ruby's background is also very suspicious. I see the mob as deeply involved too."

What is suspicious about Ruby's background? What evidence is there of any mob involvement?

"Oslwald was capable of firing a shot but his movements immediately after the shooting are bizarre."

It was a bizarre situation. He shot the President from his workplace. He left, went home and got his pistol, and took off. He tried to hide out in a theater when police were out looking for him. What should he have done?

114 posted on 07/31/2013 11:11:37 PM PDT by mlo
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To: fabian
"nice try...but is is kooky to not see the obvious here!"

Your repetition that it's obvious is just a declaration that you refuse to think about it.

115 posted on 07/31/2013 11:13:04 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo
Well, I can see that you're coming from a completely different school of thought. I am not with you on this one and unfortunately, because so many of us differ in our views, we won't get to the truth until ~2037 if, at all.

I have been researching this case since 1974, though it is a hobby that I delve into once every few months now.

I read a lot of books and I read, a few years ago, a well researched book called:

Ultimate Sacrifice: John and Robert Kennedy, the Plan for a Coup in Cuba, and the Murder of JFK

I know we all tire about the Castro-Cuba connection but this book tipped the scales for me, even though, I was already in the conspiracy camp.

116 posted on 08/01/2013 12:30:01 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: mlo

more denial...people like me have researched it thoroughly. Sorry you are so blind. Wow.


117 posted on 08/01/2013 7:20:05 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: mlo

“There is no evidence that the back of his head was blown out.” Now you are lying..there are forensic photos of the back top of his head blown out. That is indeed what his wife scrambled back to pick up off of the trunk. I think you are some sort of plant or something...weird.


118 posted on 08/01/2013 7:22:43 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian
"more denial...people like me have researched it thoroughly. Sorry you are so blind. Wow."

Reading a bunch of conspiracy books is not research. I'm willing to bet I know a lot more about the actual facts, not conspiracy book "facts", than you do.

Back up your statements. Saying other people are denial, or that everything is obvious, are empty words.

119 posted on 08/01/2013 10:16:27 AM PDT by mlo
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To: fabian
"Now you are lying..there are forensic photos of the back top of his head blown out. That is indeed what his wife scrambled back to pick up off of the trunk. I think you are some sort of plant or something...weird."

Sorry, but that's simply not true. There are no such photos. If you think there are, post one. Go ahead.

Some people think she was trying to retrieve something, but there's no evidence of it. Nothing to be retrieved is visible on the trunk. It's not consistent with her movement. It looks more like a panicked reaction to get away.

But the important part is no inferring motivation into someone else but looking at the evidence. The explosive hole was on the top right side of the head, not the back.

120 posted on 08/01/2013 10:20:22 AM PDT by mlo
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