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Desmond Tutu: I’d pick hell over an anti-gay heaven
washingtontimes.com ^ | 07/26/2013 | Cheryl K. Chumley

Posted on 07/26/2013 6:14:18 PM PDT by massmike

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To: MotorCityBuck

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41 posted on 07/26/2013 6:46:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: massmike

Enjoy you trip.


42 posted on 07/26/2013 6:47:20 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sigat voted then up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: massmike

Uh...another little creep who tells God how to run Heaven. Some day there will be a judgment.


43 posted on 07/26/2013 6:47:38 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: massmike

Well, alrighty... Have “fun”...


44 posted on 07/26/2013 6:48:53 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: massmike

You got is Demond... hell, your next stop


45 posted on 07/26/2013 6:49:51 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Caipirabob

well, he probably has chosen already


46 posted on 07/26/2013 6:50:19 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: massmike

Remember Sodom Desmond? Or did God put them all to death because they were “unwelcoming”.

While I always knew Desmond was a bit of a Socialist I always admired the reconciliation carried out by himself and Nelson Mandela after they took over in South Africa. It could have been a blood bath against whites and I think their efforts gave voice to those whose lives had been trodden on and averted much bloodshed. I hope Mr Tutu changes his mind on this one.


47 posted on 07/26/2013 6:50:22 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: MotorCityBuck
When I think of Bishops...Terry Jones come to mind

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48 posted on 07/26/2013 6:52:34 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: massmike

“I would not worship a God who is homophobic and that is how deeply I feel about this,

God will forgive you. You use the phony term homophobic in relation to God. That is beyond stupid. God is against SIN. All sin. HE does not want us to live in sin. Homo sex is a sin. So yes God would likely be against it. If that is something you can not accept, then you will have to accept what you reap..


49 posted on 07/26/2013 6:52:58 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sigat voted then up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: massmike
Desmond Tutu would probably not like to live in heaven. There are a lot of Jews living there, and he's a Judeophobe.
50 posted on 07/26/2013 6:54:15 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Desmond Tutu, said on Friday that if he had his pick, he’d go to hell before heading to a heaven that condemned homosexuality as sin. “I would not worship a God who is homophobic and that is how deeply I feel about this.”

If I had my pick (and I do), I would defer to almighty God, creator of the universe. I have no interest in the silly word "homophobic", which perhaps has a place in a prison or in the movie Deliverance, but is otherwise meaningless. I believe God is a whole lot smarter than I am, and I defer to His Word on all moral questions, including questions of sexuality.

Even if the old prohibition on pork was not supported by our modern understanding of Trichinosis, I would have assumed that God knew what he was doing and avoided pork if not for Acts. Even if the old prohibition on homosexual activity and other sexual conduct outside marriage was not supported by our modern knowledge of HIV and dozens of other diseases spread by recreational sex, I would (and do) still trust God on sexual morality. The restrictions on casual sex were never repealed, the reasons are obvious, and I will trust and follow God. What kind of a Christian thinks their own desires take precedence over God's Word? Even when we fall short, as all of us do, that is because we are weak, not because God is wrong.

51 posted on 07/26/2013 6:55:35 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: dfwgator

OK Devious. Don’t move! Classic. Thanks!


52 posted on 07/26/2013 6:56:20 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: massmike
God tends to give us what we want.

Those who want God will receive God, Forever.

Those who do not want God will not have God, Forever.

Few are quite as blatant as Tutu but in the end we all choose what we want.

53 posted on 07/26/2013 6:56:47 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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What a f8cking joke. Is this the new Christianity?

“We hate a God who disagrees with our shallow, finite, insignificant opinions”

I hope this Satanist crapbag enjoys his final destination. GOD decides moral right, NOT some communist in a country built on anti-white hatred.

Guess what, you Marxist scumbag. God is not a ‘homophobe’. God has no fear of anything, let alone irrational fear. He does not even fear the most evil force in the universe, this wretched entity, the devil (who clearly owns your soul). God DESPISES Sodomy. He DESPISES abominations before Him. God does not see ‘alcoholics’, ‘prostitutes’, or ‘homosexuals’. He only sees PEOPLE and the actions they engage in, and if these actions are what He finds abominable, then such a person who takes pride in their sin shall be condemned on Judgement Day. People are not defined by their sin, they are scarred by it, and these scars shall be their undoing.

You are not a Christian, Tutu. You NEVER were. I do not presume to cast judgement on you, so I shall use the same words as Michael. “The LORD rebuke you!”

I sincerely hope true Christians in South Africa see through your lies and Gospel perversion. Have no doubt, on the Day, you shall beg Jesus to give you His sacrifice, and His reply will be very simple.

“I never knew you.”


54 posted on 07/26/2013 6:58:57 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Mandela's Messianic Image: The Rest of the Story

To add a final benediction on the election, the press turned to Mandela's old comrade, Bishop Desmond Tutu. The Red Bishop basked in the massive media glow on election day. The New York Times' lead editorial for April 30, "South Africa, Reborn," quoted the blissful clergyman on the joy of casting his vote for the new ANC/SACP regime: "It's an incredible experience — like falling in love."
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Yes, this is the same good bishop who has been steadfastly unable to direct the same concern and energy toward converting his terrorist ANC comrades from their evil methods. The same saintly cleric who said, "I think the West, for my part, can go to hell." The same "man of God" who, in a 1979 speech, said, "I am a socialist — I detest capitalism. Capitalism is exploitative and I cannot stand that." And who, in 1984 said: "What I know is that if the Russians were to come to South Africa today, then most blacks who reject communism as atheistic and materialistic would welcome them as saviours." The same "Reverend" Tutu who has had kind words for Red China, Cuba, and every other communist dictatorship and terrorist "liberation movement," and who once boasted, "I have never hidden the fact that I meet with the leaders of the liberation movement when I go abroad."


South Africa: The Questions That Need to Be Asked

Rounding out the anti-apartheid forces is the outspoken Anglican Bishop Desmond Tutu, who has publicly expressed his fondness for socialism. In 1979, for instance, Tutu declared: "I am a socialist — I detest capitalism. Capitalism is exploitive and I cannot stand that." In February 1984, he claimed that "we will not have security and peace until we have justice, and we will not have that without the participation of the premier black liberation group, the ANC." In November of that year, he predicted that, "if the Russians were to come to South Africa today, then most blacks who reject Communism as atheistic and materialistic would welcome them as saviors. Anything would be better than apartheid." And in July 1986, in response to a speech by President Reagan on South Africa, the clergyman and Nobel Peace Prize recipient stated: "I am quite angry. I think the West, for my part, can go to hell."


Right-Wing Groups Protest Desmond Tutu's Appearance at Gonzaga University

“On an international scale, Desmond Tutu opposes Catholic teaching on just about every non-negotiable moral issue,” Ritchie told LifeSiteNews. “He’s a strident supporter of abortion, contraception, the homosexual agenda, and Marxist class warfare.”

The American Life League noted in The Pro-Life Encyclopedia that Tutu once said, “I am a Socialist. I hate capitalism.” However, in his encyclical Quadragesimo Anno, Pope Pius XI wrote, “no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist.” A series of Popes have rejected Marxist economic theories.

55 posted on 07/26/2013 6:59:58 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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Desmond Tutu has been misspelling his name for years. There is no “s” and no “d” in his first name.


56 posted on 07/26/2013 7:00:42 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: rfp1234

“The comfy pillows”. :)


57 posted on 07/26/2013 7:01:43 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: massmike

I don’t think the choice is up to you, Desmond.


58 posted on 07/26/2013 7:14:12 PM PDT by Washi
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To: massmike

Pack lightly, Mr Tutu.....


59 posted on 07/26/2013 7:14:14 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: massmike

Dear Bishop Stupid, here is what it says in the Bible:

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.- Leviticus 18:22

From Romans 1:

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Yes, Bishop Stupid, some people deny Paul was an apostle (mostly because they want to justify the sins they are committing or endorsing)and yet, here is what Jesus said:

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.- Matthew 5:18

So, to conclude, God condemned homosexuality, Jesus didn’t reverse the condemnation- He was offering a way out. May God’s wrath be upon Desmond Tutu for misleading people from His truth.


60 posted on 07/26/2013 7:15:45 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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