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This is a teachable moment if there ever was one. I trust some curious and capable American Conservative will seize the opportunity to study and analyze the history of a once great city.
1 posted on 07/19/2013 12:03:02 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows

I liked the twitter comment that Mark Steyn mentioned:” If Obama owned a city, it would look like Detroit”.


2 posted on 07/19/2013 12:06:52 PM PDT by Mark (Obama is more confused than a hungry baby in a topless bar)
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To: MosesKnows

You’re right about the moment but can the pupils be taught and how many will grasp the lesson?


3 posted on 07/19/2013 12:06:59 PM PDT by Catmom
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To: MosesKnows

Asian mercantilism played into it also. We opened our markets to rebuild the Japanese economy after the war, they have never done the same.


4 posted on 07/19/2013 12:08:36 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: MosesKnows

Two Words: DemocRAT Run


5 posted on 07/19/2013 12:08:43 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: MosesKnows

There are a lot more Detroits out there suffering from the maladies of liberalism. Lost in yesterday’s news coverage of Detroit was another significant financial event: Moody’s downgraded Chicago’s debt rating because of its growing pension liability.


6 posted on 07/19/2013 12:09:19 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: MosesKnows

Because the producers were forced to pay for the slackers, and so they left, leaving the indolent to take more and more money from the state. Finally it all collapsed.


7 posted on 07/19/2013 12:09:50 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: MosesKnows

“I was curious about what caused a diminishing Detroit but at the same time”
1. Democrats
2. Liberals
3. “Minorities”


9 posted on 07/19/2013 12:12:44 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: MosesKnows

1) unions

2) pensions

liberal politicians

No tax base

= BK


10 posted on 07/19/2013 12:14:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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This is a great video from an article at American Thinker that Provides some insight into the tragedy that is Detroit.

http://www.americanthinker.com/video/2013/07/detroit_bankrupt_in_ruins_steven_crowder_goes_to_ghetto.html


13 posted on 07/19/2013 12:17:08 PM PDT by IwaCornDogs ("There Will Be Bamboozeling" ~ Nobama 08')
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One article - here: http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/spiritual/pictures/news.php?q=1254861706

And it was discussed by Freepers in 2009 - here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2349112/posts?page=61

Scary ...and it is where the rest of the US is heading if we don’t end liberalism. (As Margaret Thatcher said....the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people’s money. ....and we are already into a debt hole that we can’t dig ourselves out of!)


14 posted on 07/19/2013 12:18:29 PM PDT by Vineyard
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I have a remedy for helping really dysfunctional organizations that I stole from the medical community. It’s called “SOAP”
S ubjective input
O bjective input
A nalysis
P rescription

I believe Doctors also make a diagnosis and develop a prognosis.

We have the Subjective input. We have the Objective input. We are analyzing. The Diagnosis is: a bad case of the Democrat party. The prognosis? If we don’t dismantle the Democrat party, the nation will die. The Prescription? Dismantle the Democrat party.


15 posted on 07/19/2013 12:21:11 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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The proximal cause that made all the other ones so much worse was the rising crime rate from the later 50’s throughout the 60’s, culminating in the 1967 riots. But even before the riots, Detroit was becoming a less-desirable place to live due to safety and security issues.

By the end of the 60’s, statistics like the murder rate had risen to that of a low-level civil war, where they have remained ever since.

The old Adam Smith saying “there is much ruin in a nation” was meant to show how even badly-mismanaged countries can keep a certain level of prosperity going, and it can take a long time from decline to fall.

Well, there was much ruin in a city, but Detroit managed to find most of it pretty quickly. Once the crime got out-of-hand, many of the non-criminals fled, especially those with assets or possessions worth stealing, leaving behind something of a husk.

New Orleans, for example, has similar problems with extreme levels of crime, but it has a constant infusion of tourist/convention dollars. Detroit had no such economic engine after many of the automakers pulled up stakes and moved operations to the city’s suburbs.

Were it not so unbelievably crime-ridden, Detroit’s recovery would be a whole lot easier.


16 posted on 07/19/2013 12:22:20 PM PDT by seacapn
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Why? Very simple.

Detroit’s main employment driver was (obviously) automobile production. When union labor to build a GM vehicle is $72 an hour in Detroit, and non-union labor to build a Toyota anywhere averages $48 an hour, GM will lose a lot of market share and not have enough employees to dun in order to pay the pensions of retired workers from GM. There also will not be enough employees to pay the city taxes needed to run the city.


18 posted on 07/19/2013 12:27:49 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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Why? Marxist unions...Marxist pols.A match made in a place somewhat lower than Heaven.


19 posted on 07/19/2013 12:30:22 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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Tragedy of the Commons
when the collective has ownership, no ONE takes responsibility


20 posted on 07/19/2013 12:34:37 PM PDT by griswold3
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Before we moved to the Ann Arbor area (one hour
west of Detroit), all I knew about Detroit was the news of the riots in the sixties. Once we moved to the area, most of the news I heard coming from Detroit was sound bites of the then mayor Coleman Young. Here was a black man elected the mayor of Detroit, and almost everything that came out of his mouth was blaming white racism for Detroit's falling fortunes.

He played that game successfully until he died, and from what I understand, he and his cronies looted that city, drained it dry while stoking the flames of racial discord. For him (and his cronies) it was a wonderful run. For the city of Detroit it was a disaster. His legacy: A hollow shell of one of the premier cities in America. A bitter, racist, violent inner city that may never recover.

Two of our kids live in the close suburbs now (what used to be called auto worker heaven), and one thing not being talked about is the new generation surrounding Detroit that is making a cultural and economic revival occur there. It's really quite impressive. They use the city sometimes, for the sports teams, a few restaurants, cultural events, but other than that, Detroit itself remains the same hollow shell that Coleman Young left it.

21 posted on 07/19/2013 12:45:32 PM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: cripplecreek

MI discussion thread about Detroit’s bankruptcy.


23 posted on 07/19/2013 12:46:28 PM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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Another great resource for your consideration ... Detroit, An American Autopsy by Charlie LeDuff.
“So much out of LeDuffs book reads like scenes out of MAD MAX, where bands of criminals roam the streets and rule the night in the post apocalyptic city”...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/10/Detroit-review-Charles-Hurt


25 posted on 07/19/2013 12:50:55 PM PDT by IwaCornDogs ("There Will Be Bamboozeling" ~ Nobama 08')
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Reporter plays golf through (not in, but through) Detroit. From 8 Mile Road to Belle Isle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9uzDelNvDg

Sad and sickening.


28 posted on 07/19/2013 1:12:52 PM PDT by roostercashews (Having a gun doesn't make you safer, but knowing how to use one does.)
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“I was suspicious if the pictures were accurate.”

Google Street View. Nuff said.


29 posted on 07/19/2013 1:21:42 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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