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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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KEYWORDS: george; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: don-o

MOM didn’t say she was the last, he said he is winding down and may be done tomorrow. I don’t recall any exact # of witnesses, as he didn’t know the rulings that were coming.


361 posted on 07/10/2013 7:04:52 AM PDT by tioga
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To: RummyChick

Diamond is Jeantell “ dont knoe no cursive”?


362 posted on 07/10/2013 7:05:14 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Uncle Chip

The State’s main witness was Rachel Jeantel, based on calls she claims she had calls with TM, though RJ herself states that others used her phone. I haven’t seen a ruling yet, but under arguments Nelson made last night, how could any of RJ’s claims be authenticated? (Getting past the fact that it was at best hearsay).


363 posted on 07/10/2013 7:06:04 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: onyx

Anybody have another online link that works? wildabouttrial.com has that the live event has ended the entire morning. click orlando.com kept reloading until it said that the live stream wasn’t available.


364 posted on 07/10/2013 7:06:20 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: RummyChick

I don’t know, but the judge not allowing these types of things in is a travesty.


365 posted on 07/10/2013 7:06:29 AM PDT by ~Pandora
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To: cajungirl

don’t be fooled by that

kids can get pretty devious when trying hide their wrongdoings


366 posted on 07/10/2013 7:06:54 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: moehoward

someone wantedmthem hidden? Maybe not Trayvon, maybe after the fact?


367 posted on 07/10/2013 7:06:58 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: onyx

The events of last night might change the defenses mind. I still have to believe they might have another route to get TM past actions in.


Well, for starters, they could ask M’s dad why, when his son didn’t come home, his first call was to juvi. That would open a can of worms...


368 posted on 07/10/2013 7:07:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: showme_the_Glory

>> gives every cracker in any neighborhood motivation to get CCW

...AND some 12-gauge artillery for your pad, just in case the NO_LIMIT_FERALS make a house call.


369 posted on 07/10/2013 7:07:47 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I’ve been using legal insurrection’s link (scroll down to “without commentary” video link) and have had no problems with it so far.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerman-trial-live-jury-selection-day-7-all-day-coverage/


370 posted on 07/10/2013 7:07:57 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: cuban leaf

fiancee worked for Juvie


371 posted on 07/10/2013 7:08:00 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

trayvon was no damned genius.


372 posted on 07/10/2013 7:08:20 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: cajungirl

Of course. Kids know their parents, or in TM’s case, school administrators are going to go through those phones.


373 posted on 07/10/2013 7:08:30 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-blog/


374 posted on 07/10/2013 7:08:34 AM PDT by ~Pandora
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Anybody have another online link

Top of the thread - Every day.

375 posted on 07/10/2013 7:08:34 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SteveH

Root:

Vantage Point with Dennis Quaid

an incident from multiple viewpoints

(me: ie, the Rashomon effect)


376 posted on 07/10/2013 7:08:56 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: showme_the_Glory; TigerClaws
a bit surprised he didn’t want to testify to make his own case.

A couple of months ago, I watched a training session a defense attorney gave and his beginning premise was, don't say any word at all to anyone except your attorney. Then, he told why and when he got through, I wouldn't say anything if such happened to me. You can see the problem it caused with Zimmerman - they keep saying he changed his story five times (something like that) and if he hadn't said a word, they could not be saying that. If you change one word of what you said before, they will get you for that. Any positive statement you make will be used against you in a bad way.

Then, a prosecutor spoke and he said the attorney was right, say nothing, and then he told what prosecutors can and will do with any word you say.

Believe me, you say a word and it will come back to hit you in the head. Words you think will help you, won't, when the prosecutor uses those words.

377 posted on 07/10/2013 7:09:33 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Uncle Chip
"The texts and pictures from Martin’s phone is out."

"Sooprise, sooprise, sooooprise." - Gomer Pyle

378 posted on 07/10/2013 7:09:41 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: Hoodat

Lol, love the tartan!


379 posted on 07/10/2013 7:10:00 AM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: RummyChick

Article from last year.

Was Trayvon Martin a Drug Dealer?

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer

Also, Obama’s boss, George Soros calling for justice.
http://front.moveon.org/a-powerful-song-for-trayvon-martin-featuring-jasiri-x/?id=38007-16539351-yALJ%3D6x


380 posted on 07/10/2013 7:10:05 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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