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How did Obama's Senate campaign know to look at Jack Ryan's divorce records? NSA?

Posted on 07/07/2013 5:10:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly, 2nd DivisionVet.

I have heard hundreds of “explanations”. Not a one of them passes the sniff test.

The greatest scam in history was perpetrated and the Preamble of the Constitution should be amended to read, “We, the serfs...”


21 posted on 07/07/2013 5:48:56 PM PDT by Walrus (America died on November 6, 2012 --- RIP)
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To: kenavi

Sure he did. Look it up.


22 posted on 07/07/2013 5:50:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 21st Century Crusader
Much like when J. Edgar Hoover had files on everyone in government, and used them to his advantage, so too the NSA has information that proves useful.

Interesting, if he was still around Zippy and Holder would be in jail by now.

23 posted on 07/07/2013 5:57:18 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Didn’t Lois Fifth Amendment Lerner have something to do with political shenanigans in Illinois?


24 posted on 07/07/2013 5:59:03 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How about congressman Tom Delay’s income tax “problems”?


25 posted on 07/07/2013 6:17:23 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Venturer
Ryans divirce was no secret and it was rumored that he and his wife were swapping.

This. No need for a high tech conspiracy.

26 posted on 07/07/2013 6:19:53 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: discostu
I don't know everything about Keyes’ campaign, but I watched his debate with Barack Hussein Obama. Alan Keyes wiped the floor with Barry. He destroyed him factually, morally, and ethically. It did not matter, not to the takers who masquerade as citizens in Illinois, not to a corrupt and scheming media, and not to the body politic. I am convinced that Barry Sotero is in power today because Lucifer put him there. The Bible says we fight not flesh and blood, but principalities. America has fallen for the deception that there is no Truth, the deception that “rationality” explains away God, and that perversions and horrible sins are only choices to be made. Satan chose Barry, but God judges both of them.
27 posted on 07/07/2013 6:30:36 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Keyes’ biggest problem is he was a carpetbagger who had no business being in the campaign in the first place. Add a state party that was in complete disarray at the time, having pushed for a guy that had huge secrets that would eventually destroy his career, and that Keyes has no mass appeal at all and often sounds like he’s talking down to people and you wind up with a candidate getting 27% of the vote. Although truthfully that’s one of his better showings, for a professional candidate he’s surprisingly bad at getting people to vote for him.


28 posted on 07/07/2013 6:39:43 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The divorce records were sealed. By definition, IMHO, that means there was dirt to be found in them. Even someone of 0bama’s intellect would be able to figure that out.


29 posted on 07/07/2013 6:50:22 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

1. According to James Jesus Angleton, the CIA had been penetrated by communist moles during the Cold War.

1a. Considering the amount of time that has passed, it is probably a safe assumption that the NSA has been subverted also.

2. Many of the people behind and around Obama are communists, and some of them like Bill Ayers are commie agitators from that period. There is no reason to believe they have ceased their activities, just changed the direction.

3. It is a fact that most of the media is in the tank with the left. They would be happy to spew whatever propaganda they were told to.

Looking at all 3, well, it would not be hard to say that a communist conspiracy is well on its way to hijacking America.


30 posted on 07/07/2013 6:59:45 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Chicago Tribune filed suit to have access to Jack Ryan’s divorce file. David Axelrod was a long time Tribune reporter before entering politics. Colonel McCormick is rolling in his grave.
31 posted on 07/07/2013 7:02:36 PM PDT by Bowhunter
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To: 21st Century Crusader
"Much like when J. Edgar Hoover had files on everyone in government, and used them to his advantage, so too the NSA has information that proves useful"

Hoover had a lot in his personal life that he wanted to keep hidden, so his files were an "insurance policy" so that he could keep his job.

Really, how many civil servants are still on the job at 77?

And no, he was not a drag queen. Gay? Maybe. Asexual? That's my guess.

But Hoover had the dignity to order that all of his files be burned upon his death.

As curious as I am about what he kept in his private stash, I think it was for the better.

32 posted on 07/07/2013 7:06:59 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008
33 posted on 07/07/2013 7:08:31 PM PDT by kenavi (Debunk THIS!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ryan’s wife told the Trib and ABC. They went after the records with a vengeance a la every liberal media outlet. They got a judge to ‘unseal’ sealed public records as it was in the public interest.

Once the he said, she said stories broke, none of which were particularly damning given their angry divorce people stayed home and... we got Obama.

So the lesson is?


34 posted on 07/07/2013 7:36:57 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Knowing what we know of the NSA at this point in time, I suspect that they gave him the information.

you read too much into it. A corrupt, leftist, and likely reverse-racist low-level clerk in the Illinois judicial system would have sufficed - and no doubt Illinois and Chicago have plenty of those.

35 posted on 07/07/2013 7:39:33 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: discostu
- Hillary and JFK were "carpetbaggers", and they still took all

- Almost all political animals have "huge secrets" that could destroy their careers, some bigger sins than others, however not all are exposed and some actually benefit them

- Obama is a homosexual, and that has never been exposed politically

I state again that the dark prince of this world (Lucifer) had a lot to do with Obama's unreal success, and he still does. But, watch the signs of the times, God is not finished yet, not by a long shot.

36 posted on 07/08/2013 3:38:52 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Actually it was RFK that carpetbagged to New York. They were both more effective at getting people to vote for them than Keyes, Keyes has never topped 40% of the vote. Had Ryan stuck it out he might have won, sex scandals aren’t nearly as big a deal as they used to be, but he didn’t stick it out. Of course one should remember he’d come from finance not politics, maybe he just didn’t want to deal with the world of mud, or maybe it was a stunt in the first place (ala Caine’s presidential run).

I don’t get into metaphysics, I only discuss the physical world. And in the physical world Keyes has never come close to winning any election, as soon as he became “the guy” to oppose Obama for the Illinois senate seat Obama functionally won.


37 posted on 07/08/2013 3:46:56 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: discostu
True, RFK. Thanks for that clarification. Hillary, still a carpetbagger.

I still believe Obama is in place because of Lucifer.

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."

Ephesians 6:12

I don’t get into metaphysics, I only discuss the physical world.

I am sorry, but those who spout the term "metaphysics" in my experience are cowards. They refuse to see what their hearts know is true.

Romans 1: 18-31

"18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."

38 posted on 07/08/2013 4:55:19 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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