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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 26 JUNE 28, 2013
Free Republic | June 28, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 06/28/2013 1:01:56 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; cilantro; coriander; food; gardening; hobby; mdf; neem; walkingonions
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To: murrie
“I can’t imagine David Austen roses appreciating having their roses so easily propagated like that.”

All my roses were David Austin roses - all shades of pink. We drove to Tyler, Texas, to get them. There were bush types in the main part of the garden, then all across the back wall were his climbing roses. The summer of 2011 killed all of them except for two bush types that refused to die. They are on their second blooms now and your pink ones look very much like mine. Many petals make beautiful roses.

I have Jobe’s rose food spikes coming to give them some food. There are two of the climbing ones on the back trellis that died down to a few small limbs but maybe the fertilizer spikes will save their lives. There is a bit of shade at one time during the day that reaches those two that are hanging on and that probably saved those limbs during 2011. The temp. then was 105-107 for over a month or more with no rain at all.

When I saw that rose stalk in that potato, I thought of my two David Austin bush roses and wondered if I could “clone” those roses using that method. David Austin would never know I did it since I have those high brick walls around my garden. Of course, he lives in England anyway, so he will never know.

81 posted on 06/28/2013 8:34:34 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: greeneyes

Barley for a winter cover crop was fine but it didn’t get done until a few weeks ago and now I am working my rear off to get everything turned around for tomatoes and peppers and such. The other day it occurred to me my family spent ten generations here before they got off the farm. My dad was the first college grad and I was the first post grad. Now here I am breaking my butt on the farm. It may only be 400 sq ft or so but it is seriously tasking me.


82 posted on 06/28/2013 9:01:45 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Johnny,
You posted picks of your tobacco dusted with DE last week. Do you smoke it? Isn’t DE silicate?


83 posted on 06/28/2013 9:03:20 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Sarajevo

Ping.


84 posted on 06/28/2013 9:06:18 PM PDT by Racehorse
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To: greeneyes

Had to hill the potatoes a third time, and I know I’m going to have to add mulch over that.

Last night was a home grown dinner: fried rabbit; carrot thinnings; snap peas. Potato salad even had chopped Egyptian onion & boiled eggs from the hen house in it. Been eating German Giant radish thinnings, too; they are about ping pong ball to golfball size, and growing.

Speaking of snap peas, Wednesday, I picked a whole 1.25 pounds. Today, I brought in 3 pounds; they are starting to actually produce. Also discovered that some alien invaders sneaked into the seed bin: a few of the vines are flat podded snow peas, rather than snap peas. Also found a half dozen volunteer potatoes hiding under the vines; that’s what was planted there last year. Won’t get anything from them, as they can’t be hilled, and look pretty spindly, but we’ll see.

Not sure what is going on with my pole beans. Instead of starting to climb, they are starting to flower.


85 posted on 06/28/2013 9:06:37 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Marcella; greeneyes

Years ago, at a So-Cal apartment complex we lived at, a neighbor worked for Asplundh a commercial tree “trimming” (butchers!) service.
One afternoon, they finished loading the enclosed deuce and a half dump too late to dump it at the landfill, so he drove it home and parked it on the street to take & empty first thing next morning.
It was late spring or early summer, so the the branches going through their chipper had lots of succulent new growth, and was heavily leaved out.
A bit after midnight, the load spontaneously combusted. Heavy damage to the truck, but no other property damage.


86 posted on 06/28/2013 9:36:10 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Who Knew that such stuff could be so dangerous? SSHHHHH don’t tell anyone else, or you’ll have to have a permit to compost your kitchen scraps.


87 posted on 06/28/2013 10:55:43 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

That’s some good eating. Been a long time since I had some fried rabbit. I envy your eggs, but don’t envy getting up to feed animals, nor clean cages.LOL


88 posted on 06/28/2013 10:59:08 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: wastoute

LOL. But just think - you are growing your own food. You don’t have to wonder what is on it, or if it’s full of pesticides - you know exactly, and when you go out and pick your produce then eat it immediately, there’s no decrease in nutrient value. And the taste! MMMMM Smack. Need I go on?


89 posted on 06/28/2013 11:02:51 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Spontaneous combustion leads to the destruction of a lot of barns.

I once trusted someone to bale up hay while I had to be out of town. When I came home, the hay was gorgeous and green, but when I opened a bale, the interior was...smoking. Essentially, bales of "salad" had been put up...I got those bales out of the barn as fast as I could.
90 posted on 06/28/2013 11:37:32 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: murrie
Aren’t roses patented or something like that? I can’t imagine David Austen roses appreciating having their roses so easily propagated like that.

Think of it as an "archival copy"; that provision is always somewhere in the EULA. *<];-')

91 posted on 06/29/2013 2:04:19 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: greeneyes

No need to go on. Just whining. LOL


92 posted on 06/29/2013 3:40:35 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute
Yep, I'll smoke or chew it, depending on how I prep it. I don't particularly worry about the DE. For one thing, I give all the leaves a light rinse to knock off the stuff on them.

/johnny

93 posted on 06/29/2013 4:20:52 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

“I just like to see all kinds of pots and stuff on the patio with stuff growing in them.”

I can’t have a jumble of pots on the deck. My film director son is like me in that he is an organizer and that’s what he does with film - it has to flow together. When he was here, we discussed the deck - it needs to look coordinated like there was a plan for it to be aesthetic - pleasant to the eye. And, there has to be enough room for the iron furniture to provide a nice area to sit. You may think that’s silly, but it really isn’t as my outside area is small so it’s part of my living space - it’s not the “south 40”. I’ll get it done so in the end it will look nice.


94 posted on 06/29/2013 7:04:48 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: tillacum
I've got lots of worms in the good parts of my garden. Of course, I don't get a wormsitter for mine when I take a trip. ;)

I had to thin out some more tobacco leaves today, so I've got another 5 lbs or so hanging here in the kitchen/office.

I NEED those tomatoes to get ripe. I'm out of canned tomatoes and out of salsa. I'm having withdrawals.

Still harvesting NM chili peppers. I've got enough now that it's going to be labor effective to fire up the grill with fellwood and roast them outside instead of in the toaster oven.

/johnny

95 posted on 06/29/2013 8:25:38 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ApplegateRanch
That green stuff has lots of Nitrogen in it. It'll do it every time. I generally don't put a lot of high-N stuff in my compost pile. When I did put some horse poop in there, I stuck a thermometer in it and watched the temp go up to 150F.

/johnny

96 posted on 06/29/2013 8:28:02 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes; Mrs. Don-o

Thank you both. I will start with today’s coffee grounds and see what happens.


97 posted on 06/29/2013 8:28:33 AM PDT by a.c.t.32
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To: Marcella
it needs to look coordinated like there was a plan for it to be aesthetic - pleasant to the eye.

You would need to take a valium before you looked at my garden/work areas. ;)

/johnny

98 posted on 06/29/2013 8:30:26 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
“You would need to take a valium before you looked at my garden/work areas. ;)”

The difference is, when I step out my sliding glass door, I'm on a lower deck that is about five steps from the upper deck where the containers will be. I doubt your garden is right there in your face when you step out. Also, the glass must be 14 ft. long across the living area, so the garden area is plenty visible from the living area all the time. If the deck was junky, it would really bother me having to look at it all the time.

Most of the people living in these townhouses have a smaller back area than I do and they have filled it with rocks with absolutely nothing real growing. They don't have a deck unless they built it. They do have a piece of concrete slab for a small patio and I do mean small.

Whoever owned this townhouse before me, put in that lower deck over the piece of flat concrete and built a step up large deck, still leaving raw ground beyond that deck. I'm lucky they didn't eliminate the raw ground part. I say this to illustrate no one in these 61 townhomes is growing any food. Kroger grocery is across the street and down about a block. That is their food.

99 posted on 06/29/2013 9:12:27 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella
On the up side, you have less weeds and grass to clear out.

I'm very, very happy with using the clear plastic to prep an area for gardening. In direct sun, the temps get over 140F. That will kill weed seeds as well as the plants themselves.

I look forward to measuring the ground temp in the middle of August.

/johnny

100 posted on 06/29/2013 9:47:42 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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