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States consider fees for hybrids to recoup lost gasoline taxes
Fuel Fix ^ | 6/9/2013 | Chris Kardish

Posted on 06/10/2013 6:25:54 AM PDT by rktman

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — North Carolina is joining a growing number of states exploring new fees for hybrid and electric car owners to help make up for revenue those drivers aren’t paying in gas taxes on their fuel-efficient vehicles.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; didiots; energy; envirowacko; gasoline; gastax; hybridcars; hybrids; hybridvehicles; motorfueltax; ponzischeme; tax
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Make them stop. My sides are hurting. Unintended consequences anyone? More likely "they" will raise the taxes on those of us who don't buy in to the AGW scam and fail to comply. Think I'll go crank up the Hemi.
1 posted on 06/10/2013 6:25:54 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman
How about hitting those little Smart Cars with the same tax? Driving a fuel efficient car is the same as cheating on your taxes. (do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
2 posted on 06/10/2013 6:33:32 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: rktman

Ok now, WHO didn’t see this coming? Bueller, Bueller...


3 posted on 06/10/2013 6:33:48 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: rktman

Let no good deed go unpunished.


4 posted on 06/10/2013 6:34:37 AM PDT by stboz
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To: rktman

Yup, time to take the road trip machine Expedition EL off the blocks ......


5 posted on 06/10/2013 6:39:40 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: rktman
In NY state, the divorced, pro-abortion "Catholic" Andy Cuomo has suggested new businesses build on college campuses - tax free.
But to make up for the lost taxes there will be PILOTs ... Payments In Lieu Of Taxes.
You can't make this stuff up.
6 posted on 06/10/2013 6:43:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: The Working Man

It’s funny - leftists get all in a tizzy when folks act rationally and take actions and make decisions to avoid the egregious regulations that they impose on us...

and they’re equally astounded when some policies they push are detrimental to other parts of their agenda, including reduced revenue to their beloved government.


7 posted on 06/10/2013 6:45:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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In Ann Arbor Michigan, taxpayers pay to charge electric cars driven by 6 figure earning professors.


8 posted on 06/10/2013 6:46:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rktman
You didn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see this one coming. The state governments are like vacuum cleaners sucking up all available money to fund garbage programs that the politicians consider “essential”.
9 posted on 06/10/2013 6:47:54 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: cripplecreek

The left are, at heart, feudalists...

The “nobility” live at the expense of the “peasants”,
producing nothing of their own, and enforcing their position of privilege through force of arms.


10 posted on 06/10/2013 6:49:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

bttt


11 posted on 06/10/2013 6:50:07 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: rktman

Can’t escape the Taxman...


12 posted on 06/10/2013 6:51:46 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: rktman
I'm not exactly sure how I feel about this one. On the one hand, gas taxes are intended to help pay for maintaining the roads. The theory behind using gas taxes for this purpose was that the more gas you used, the more driving you were doing and thus, the more wear and tear you placed on the roads. With hybrids and electric cars, you are still using the roads just as much as with a gas car, but since you are paying fewer/no gas taxes to maintain the roads.

On the other hand, the money received from the gas taxes is all too often raided to fund liberal programs, and the roads become pothole filled hellholes anyway, so I don't mind starving the beast anyway we can.

Of course, I love the irony that these extra fees would hit liberals dis-proportionally...

13 posted on 06/10/2013 6:54:14 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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The left hand passes out mega-buck subsidies for electric vehicles that no one wants and the right hand is PO’ed and want new taxes because of lost gas tax revenues. You ever get the felling that they get you coming and going?


14 posted on 06/10/2013 7:02:14 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: stboz

I’m in Kentucky and I heard our state is discussing this. I have mixed emotions, though.

Imagine a guy invents an 4,000 lb car that runs solely on solar power. It means (especially in my state) that he is paying nothing to drive on our state’s roads. Fact is, gas taxes (used as they were intended) is one of the fairest ways to pay for a thing. You use the road so you pay for it in the fuel you burn. A light car does less harm so it pays less taxes via its fuel efficiency. But if someone creates a care that is wildly efficient there needs to be some way to extract payment for use.

I’m no fan of tracking miles driven or turning all roads into toll roads, but a surcharge on “ultra efficient” vehicle annual tabs may be a good way to mitigate this.


15 posted on 06/10/2013 7:03:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: CA Conservative

You and I basically said the same thing, but you beat me to it. ;-)


16 posted on 06/10/2013 7:04:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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That’s what happened here in Ohio in a similar libtard move. The electric customers were so good at conserving power (turning lights off when not needed, etc.) as suggested by the power company, that the power company had to raise its rates to bring in the lost revenue to continue to pay the union wages and retirement.


17 posted on 06/10/2013 7:13:45 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: cuban leaf

Tax tires, because tire wear is directly proportional to road use. Problem solved.


18 posted on 06/10/2013 7:14:36 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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Actually this is a good thing. Why should you and I subsidize Alternative fuel cars. You are paying their taxes as the fuel tax both federal and state pay to build and maintain the roads.

A hybrird vehicle is not paying the fuel tax and is getting a freeride from all of us. We need to tax these vehicles or we will pay more for fuel taxes.

I am in the trucking business and we pay a lot of fuel taxes for trucks going down the road. But you do too in your car.


19 posted on 06/10/2013 7:15:14 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 can we make it until 2016?)
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No surprise here... All the tax incentives for buying “super-efficient” automobiles, plus the incentive of lower fuel costs (including paying less taxes on that fuel)... but of course, there are strings attached.

And all this while we wonder who is going to pay for the disposal/processing of all the exhausted batteries from these vehicles (mega-expensive to make and dispose of - and are pretty horrible for the environment on both ends.... never hear the Prius salesman mention that...)


20 posted on 06/10/2013 7:19:57 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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