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1 posted on 06/05/2013 2:21:55 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

What an ignorant and bigoted plick. /s


3 posted on 06/05/2013 2:41:32 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: servo1969

These statements and more demonstrate the seperateness of Christianity and Mormonism.

The only reason they say "We are Christian" is an attempt to morph into something they are not and co-opt Christianity.

 

"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world"
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270

"...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels."
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60

"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p.

"Christians—those poor, miserable priests brother Brigham was speaking about—some of them are the biggest whoremasters there are on the earth, and at the same time preaching righteousness to the children of men. The poor devils, they could not get up here and preach an oral discourse, to save themselves from hell; they are preaching their fathers' sermons —preaching sermons that were written a hundred years before they were born. ...You may get a Methodist priest to pour water on you, or sprinkle it on you, and baptize you face foremost, or lay you down the other way, and whatever mode you please, and you will be damned with your priest.
- Apostle Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, v. 5, p. 89

"What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast."
- Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent."
- Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255

"After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon."
- Apostle George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, p. 324

Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

"I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

"What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute best." (John Taylor, JD 13:225)

"What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing...Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God." (John Taylor, JI) 13:225)

"Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177)

"...brother Joseph B. Nobles once told a Methodist priest, after hearing him describe his god, that the god they worshiped was the "Mormon's" Devil-a being without a body, whereas our God has a body, parts and passions." (Brigham Young, JD 5:331)

"...the great apostate church as the anti-christ...This great antichrist...is the church of the devil." (Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine p.40)

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the "whore of Babylon" whom the lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness." (Pratt, The Seer, p.255)

 

“God is not at its head, making that church [i.e., Christianity] – following the appearance in it of Satan – no longer the church of God. To say that Satan sits in the place of God in Christianity after the time of the apostles is not to say that all that is in it is Satanic.”
- Kent P. Jackson, “Early Signs of Apostasy,” Ensign, December 1984, p. 9

1 Nephi 14:10 "Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of god, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth."

"Orthodox Christian views of God are pagan rather than Christian" (Mormon Doctrine of Deity, B. H. Roberts [General Authority], 116).

Brigham Young: “…and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is Antichrist.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol 9 pg 312).

Mormon Apostle Hyrum M. Smith,- “In fact, my brethren and sisters, if the falsity of a religion can be measured in any degree by the amount of trouble and turmoil and strife and bitterness and hatred that it has engendered in the hearts of men, if it can be judged by the number of wars it has carried on and the rivers of blood it has shed, the amount of misery and sorrow, it has caused, or the extremes of impurity, found among its adherents, then Christianity, that which is known as Christianity, is the falsest of all religions in the world… The trouble is, as God declared to Joseph the Prophet, mankind have gone astray. Their religions are an abomination in his sight, and their professors are corrupt because they have turned away from the truth and have turned unto fables.” (Conference Report, October 1916, p.43).

 

 

The plaque above is found in Temple Square with Joseph Smith a top it.

Do the Latter Day Saints corporately and collectively believe this and support that view point?  Of course they do.  Otherwise, if there is no resurrected church then there is no LDS.

But everyone outside their group is "Anti-Mormon"?  LOL  They are Anti-Christian and seek not only to undermine Christianity and their beliefs but outright work to subordinate one man to another, in that one must accept the Prophets words as sacrosanct and inviolable.

No man pays fealty to another as their superior because their so called god ordains it.


4 posted on 06/05/2013 2:42:00 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: servo1969

Amen, servo, amen. However much they want to count themselves Christians, the belief that they can become gods themselves rules them out. That and that they don’t believe in the trinity as the rest of us do. Unitarians don’t qualify either as they don’t believe in the Trinity.

My own church (Catholic) fully accepts the baptisms of all protestants who convert as having been already validly conferred. [If there is any doubt if the right formula was used i.e. with water and being “baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - a conditional baptism would be used. i.e. “If you are not baptized I baptize you in the name...etc.” ] But any Mormon wanting to convert will be first Baptized, as they are not considered Christians.


6 posted on 06/05/2013 2:47:40 AM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: servo1969
There is one and only one test to measure if a group is a cult and not Christian. Jesus gave the bottom line when He asked Peter, “Who do you say I am?” That is the one and only question we are to ask.

Jesus/Yahshua was Elohim...fully God and fully man. That's it. Period. Seventh Day Adventists have Ellen G. white say Jesus was Michael the Archangel...Jehovah Witnesses have Jesus as Michael and Mormons have him as Lucifer's brother. Oh my.
Bottom line it with people...ask them who they say Jesus is, that will tell you where they are coming from.

7 posted on 06/05/2013 2:53:45 AM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: servo1969

There is one and only one test to measure if a group is a cult and not Christian. Jesus gave the bottom line when He asked Peter, “Who do you say I am?” That is the one and only question we are to ask.

Jesus/Yahshua was Elohim...fully God and fully man. That’s it. Period. Seventh Day Adventists have Ellen G. white say Jesus was Michael the Archangel...Jehovah Witnesses have Jesus as Michael and Mormons have him as Lucifer’s brother. Oh my.
Bottom line it with people...ask them who they say Jesus is, that will tell you where they are coming from.


8 posted on 06/05/2013 2:54:12 AM PDT by ladyL (.)
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Mike Adams Column


Please Freepmail me if you want to be added, or removed from the ping list

11 posted on 06/05/2013 3:27:32 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Colofornian

ping to the same ol tune...played in a major key.


13 posted on 06/05/2013 3:51:34 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: servo1969

Made up stories of how a new gospel of JC was found and the veracity of what actually happened or did not happen in the real world in those stories.

Vs

True stories of men who actually lived 2000 and more years ago who preached via stories of a God and Creation whose veracity can only be accepted by faith.

Tough one.


14 posted on 06/05/2013 3:55:20 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: servo1969

In response,

Ye who have no sin, let him cast the first stone ....

I’m sorry that a direct ancestor of Christ, through whom God had designated as the Christ’s lineage had hundreds of polygamous wives (ie David, Soloman).

I’m sorry that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob chose Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, two of the three confirmed polygamist.

I’m sorry that Christ asked his disciples to be “one, even as we are one, as though father are in me and I in the that they may be one in us”.

I’m sorry that your definition of the oneness of God and Christ forever prohibits you as a disciple from obeying this fervent prayer of Christ since you or they as a disciple could never join as...

....twelve in one, and one in twelve, but not dividing the substance, or combining the hypostasis, but there are being of the twelve and twelve bings of the one, ..... repeat with various differnces ad nasuem ....

I’m Sorry that Christ actually was the Son of the Living God as the Bible said, and that when He cried out on Calvary “My Father, Why has though forsaken me”. That he was truly Calling out to his Father in Heaven and not to some mysterious multiple personality of his own being.

I am also sorry that you do not allow for the possibility of Faith and the Testimony of the Holy Ghost.

I’m sorry that while you read the Book of Mormon in 2006 that you obviously read it hand in hand with the best and most inflammatory of anti-mormon literature, since you appear to be more conversant with that than you are about the doctrines of our church.

However, I am greatful, that when you read the bible that you did not subject it to the identical prejudice that you did the Book of Mormon, or you’d probably be praising people flying planes into the WTC.

I’d love to get into a Christian doctrinal comparison of my LDS beliefs vs yours and the Bible as well as the early pre nicene fathers beliefs ..... and you may find that most of all ..... your Christian beliefs have been compromised, distorted, reinterpreted, transformed and replaced from the original doctrine of Jesus Christ.

I as a Latter Day Saint (Mormon) state that I humbly seek to devote my life, talents, time, resources, and family to my Eternal Father in Heaven and his literal Son, the Only Begotten of God, Jesus Christ.

I’m sorry that in your mind this makes me unchristian.

I am also sorry, that through ample personal experiences, Jesus Christ has shown me that he does not share your opinion.


15 posted on 06/05/2013 4:03:43 AM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: servo1969

bkmrk


19 posted on 06/05/2013 4:21:54 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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I am sorry that the science of genetics has refuted claims made in the Book of Mormon concerning the relationship between Native Americans and Semitic people. These refutations undermine the entire historical premise of the Book of Mormon.


20 posted on 06/05/2013 4:40:36 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: servo1969
have unfairly accused me of criticizing Mormonism

Why are you criticizing?

21 posted on 06/05/2013 4:41:50 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: servo1969
Lets go down to Short Creek and visit our Polygamous relatives and friends. It's a cool place to hide from the feds down on the Arizona strip.


27 posted on 06/05/2013 5:14:45 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: servo1969

I have an idea: why don’t we believe what we want to believe and let God decide who’s right?


28 posted on 06/05/2013 5:23:51 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: servo1969

Dear Mike,

Apology accepted. My other cheek is ready whenever you are.


31 posted on 06/05/2013 7:36:25 AM PDT by POWG
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To: Elsie

Mike Adams apologizes to Mormons ping.


36 posted on 06/05/2013 11:13:30 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: servo1969

The Mormons, snakehandlers, tongue speakers, Harold Camping, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Scientologists, the Crouches, what’s the difference?


37 posted on 06/05/2013 11:16:23 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: servo1969
I am sorry that Smith’s polytheism is not consistent with John 14:6. I am also sorry that since these are the words of Christ, polytheism cannot be Christian. Moreover, I am sorry, my Mormon friends, but the the words of Christ trump the words of Joseph Smith who will never be God.

And that is why Mormonism is not, in any meaningful sense, Christianity. it fails on first principles.

If you believe that there is one, and only one, God, then you might be Christian.

If you believe that the number of gods that exist is greater than one, you are most definitely not Christian.

Frauduently slapping the name "Jesus Christ" on the label doesn't magically transform your religion into something that resembles what Jesus Christ and his apostles actually taught.

38 posted on 06/05/2013 11:39:51 AM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: servo1969

This is a sorry excuse for an excuse.


40 posted on 06/05/2013 1:55:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: servo1969

Nicely stated, in a clear and concise way.


62 posted on 06/05/2013 3:58:23 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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