Posted on 06/05/2013 2:21:55 AM PDT by servo1969
Dear Stacey:
You have written demanding an apology for my recent characterization of the Mormon religion as "non-Christian." I am happy to write a public letter of apology to you and to the countless Mormon readers who responded negatively to my characterization.
I am sorry that so many of my Mormon readers have brazenly accused me of ignorance of their religion and suggested that I read the Book of Mormon. I am sorry that they were unaware that I read the Book of Mormon back in 2006.
I am sorry that the science of genetics has refuted claims made in the Book of Mormon concerning the relationship between Native Americans and Semitic people. These refutations undermine the entire historical premise of the Book of Mormon.
I am also sorry that while archeological discovery supports the claims of the Bible it clearly does not support the claims of the Book of Mormon. Battles that were supposed to have occurred in specific locations in North America simply never took place. The archeological evidence just isn't there.
I am sorry about the plagiarism of the Holy Bible that runs through the Book of Mormon. I am sorry that Mormons cannot see that Joseph Smith's refusal to reveal the golden tablets is strong evidence of their nonexistence. The heavy plagiarism in the Book of Mormon puts the lie to the rest of the story of Smith, the former seeker of the lost treasures of Captain Kidd.
I am sorry that my Mormon readers have put all their eggs in one basket by constantly writing to me quoting Matthew 7:16. So I am sorry that I must now apply that verse to the very first Mormon.
I am sorry that among the 33 well-documented plural wives of Joseph Smith, there were close to a dozen unions in which the wife was already married to another man.
I am sorry that in his lifetime, Joseph Smith married four different pairs of sisters. I am sorry that Joseph Smith married a young woman and also married her mother.
I am sorry that some of Joseph Smith's marriages were the result of religious coercion secured only after he told the prospective bride that marrying him would ensure the brides place in heaven. I am sorry that Smith also coerced teenagers into marrying him by promising their families a place in heaven.
I am sorry that Joseph Smith kept fourteen-year-old Helen Mar Kimball from marrying her sweetheart Horace Whitney because he wanted to marry the teenager instead. I am sorry that Joseph Smith also asked Helens father Heber C. Kimball to give him his wife.
I am sorry that before he eventually married Helen, Joseph Smith gave her a 24-hour deadline to give in to his offer of a place in heaven. I am sorry that two years after the death of Joseph Smith, Helen married her old sweetheart Horace Whitney. I am sorry that the marriage between Helen and Horace was only temporary because Helen was already "sealed" by marriage to Joseph Smith for eternity. I am sorry that Horace Whitney was "sealed" to an already dead Mormon woman before his temporary marriage to Helen.
I am sorry that after her mother died, Joseph Smith approached teenager Lucy Walker with a command that she marry Smith with the threat of eternal damnation as the punishment if she refused. I am sorry that the year before Joseph Smith died, he said the following to Lucy: I will give you until tomorrow to decide (whether to marry me). If you reject this message the gate will be closed forever against you.
I am sorry that the Book of Mormon, which Joseph Smith claims to have transcribed from the golden plates given to him by the Angel Moroni, says the following: Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, Saith the Lord. (Jacob 2:24).
I am sorry that Joseph Smith said the following shortly before his death: "(W)hen I get my kingdom, I shall present it to my father, so that he may obtain kingdom among kingdom, and it will exalt him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation, and I will take his place, and thereby become exalted myself.
I am sorry that Smiths polytheism is not consistent with John 14:6. I am also sorry that since these are the words of Christ, polytheism cannot be Christian. Moreover, I am sorry, my Mormon friends, but the the words of Christ trump the words of Joseph Smith who will never be God.
I am sorry that Mormonism teaches that Christ was not there in the beginning, that god was just a man who became God by following a moral code he did not create, and that we may all become gods by following the same moral code that predates the existence of Jesus. I am sorry that the theological mess caused by Joseph Smith is irreconcilable with the teachings of the Holy Bible.
Finally, I am sorry that my Mormon readers have unfairly accused me of criticizing Mormonism without doing my homework. But I am glad I did. Now I understand the significance of Galatians 1:6-9.
Let me put it this way: There is no way Jesus can be G-d in the flesh because it is a complete contradiction of G-d’s Word in the Torah. More importantly there is no mention of the trinity in the Hebrew Scriptures.
The trinity is pagan in origin and so is Christianity.
“Let me put it this way: There is no way Jesus can be G-d in the flesh because it is a complete contradiction of G-ds Word in the Torah. More importantly there is no mention of the trinity in the Hebrew Scriptures.
The trinity is pagan in origin and so is Christianity.”
Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa_48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
You do realize, don't you, the difference between Christians and those who call themselves Christians?
Therefore, it is patently false.
The Christian bible is a complete contradiction of the Torah and is pagan in origin. The notion of a man-god being born to a virgin is pagan and so is the resurrection. The trinity is completely pagan as well.
A man cannot be fully God and fully man because it is impossible for God to become human especially since He made it clear that He has NO HUMAN FORM.
“The Christian bible”
I quoted the Old Testament. But, you’re right, the Old Testament does belong to Christians too.
You did quote the Old Testament. The CHRISTIAN Old Testament. It IS NOT the version Jews and Noahides adhere to.
“You did quote the Old Testament. The CHRISTIAN Old Testament. It IS NOT the version Jews and Noahides adhere to.”
Actually, it is the same version, unless the Noahides and Jews have taken to rewriting the Holy Scripture lately.
Indeed!!
And offended MORMONs will point them out and whine.
Too bad they try to blur the distinction between Mormon bashing amd MormonISM exposing.
It ususally doesn't get very far...
HE did?
When?
Where??
(This very thread has resurrected from being dead for, not 3 days, but 3 WEEKS!)
Note the emphasis. No one is MAKING these "folks" DISbelieve Mormonism any more than others are MAKING them believe Mormonism. We here -- as online missionaries --are offering them the Good News of Jesus Christ -- the Christ story -- and God has given them free will to continue to reject it as long as they continue to DISbelieve the true Gospel. My advice is for you to do the same in commenting about our posts.
GOD knows those that REFUSE to speak out against false teachings as well.
Then tell your story.
I don't see a contradiction. Clearly you do.
"More importantly there is no mention of the trinity in the Hebrew Scriptures."
Their are hints. There is no reason to think that any Scriptures tell us everything about the nature of God. We know only what He reveals.
"The trinity is pagan in origin and so is Christianity."
Thanks for your opinion. May you be here on earth when He returns in the clouds and then understand, as all will.
Zechariah 12:10-12"And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
Revelation 1:7"Look, he is coming with the clouds," and "every eye will see him, even those who pierced him"; and all peoples on earth "will mourn because of him." So shall it be! Amen.
Then JEWs have no Savior: right?
No, not all can be called the *children of God*.
John 1:12-13 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
Becoming God's child is only through receiving Him.
Whoop-di-doo.
Oh?
And just what DO they cling to?
Are any of them actually able to perform the NEEDED requirements found there?
John 19:34
"But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they broke not his legs: 34But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and immediately came there out blood and water. 35And he that saw it bore record, and his record is true: and he knows that he said true, that you might believe. "
Pretty much everywhere in the Hebrew Scriptures.
What about that is not understood?
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