My Apology to Mormon Readers

townhall.com ^ | 6-5-2013 | Mike Adams

[servo1969]

Dear Stacey:

You have written demanding an apology for my recent characterization of the Mormon religion as "non-Christian." I am happy to write a public letter of apology to you and to the countless Mormon readers who responded negatively to my characterization.

I am sorry that so many of my Mormon readers have brazenly accused me of ignorance of their religion and suggested that I read the Book of Mormon. I am sorry that they were unaware that I read the Book of Mormon back in 2006.

I am sorry that the science of genetics has refuted claims made in the Book of Mormon concerning the relationship between Native Americans and Semitic people. These refutations undermine the entire historical premise of the Book of Mormon.

I am also sorry that while archeological discovery supports the claims of the Bible it clearly does not support the claims of the Book of Mormon. Battles that were supposed to have occurred in specific locations in North America simply never took place. The archeological evidence just isn't there.

I am sorry about the plagiarism of the Holy Bible that runs through the Book of Mormon. I am sorry that Mormons cannot see that Joseph Smith's refusal to reveal the golden tablets is strong evidence of their nonexistence. The heavy plagiarism in the Book of Mormon puts the lie to the rest of the story of Smith, the former seeker of the lost treasures of Captain Kidd.

I am sorry that my Mormon readers have put all their eggs in one basket by constantly writing to me quoting Matthew 7:16. So I am sorry that I must now apply that verse to the very first Mormon.

I am sorry that among the 33 well-documented plural wives of Joseph Smith, there were close to a dozen unions in which the wife was already married to another man.

I am sorry that in his lifetime, Joseph Smith married four different pairs of sisters. I am sorry that Joseph Smith married a young woman and also married her mother.

I am sorry that some of Joseph Smith's marriages were the result of religious coercion secured only after he told the prospective bride that marrying him would ensure the bride’s place in heaven. I am sorry that Smith also coerced teenagers into marrying him by promising their families a place in heaven.

I am sorry that Joseph Smith kept fourteen-year-old Helen Mar Kimball from marrying her sweetheart Horace Whitney because he wanted to marry the teenager instead. I am sorry that Joseph Smith also asked Helen’s father Heber C. Kimball to give him his wife.

I am sorry that before he eventually married Helen, Joseph Smith gave her a 24-hour deadline to give in to his offer of a place in heaven. I am sorry that two years after the death of Joseph Smith, Helen married her old sweetheart Horace Whitney. I am sorry that the marriage between Helen and Horace was only temporary because Helen was already "sealed" by marriage to Joseph Smith for eternity. I am sorry that Horace Whitney was "sealed" to an already dead Mormon woman before his “temporary” marriage to Helen.

I am sorry that after her mother died, Joseph Smith approached teenager Lucy Walker with a command that she marry Smith with the threat of eternal damnation as the punishment if she refused. I am sorry that the year before Joseph Smith died, he said the following to Lucy: “I will give you until tomorrow to decide (whether to marry me). If you reject this message the gate will be closed forever against you.”

I am sorry that the Book of Mormon, which Joseph Smith claims to have transcribed from the golden plates given to him by the Angel Moroni, says the following: “Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, Saith the Lord.” (Jacob 2:24).

I am sorry that Joseph Smith said the following shortly before his death: "(W)hen I get my kingdom, I shall present it to my father, so that he may obtain kingdom among kingdom, and it will exalt him in glory. He will then take a higher exaltation, and I will take his place, and thereby become exalted myself.”

I am sorry that Smith’s polytheism is not consistent with John 14:6. I am also sorry that since these are the words of Christ, polytheism cannot be Christian. Moreover, I am sorry, my Mormon friends, but the the words of Christ trump the words of Joseph Smith who will never be God.

I am sorry that Mormonism teaches that Christ was not there in the beginning, that god was just a man who became God by following a moral code he did not create, and that we may all become gods by following the same moral code that predates the existence of Jesus. I am sorry that the theological mess caused by Joseph Smith is irreconcilable with the teachings of the Holy Bible.

Finally, I am sorry that my Mormon readers have unfairly accused me of criticizing Mormonism without doing my homework. But I am glad I did. Now I understand the significance of Galatians 1:6-9.

[Vendome]

What an ignorant and bigoted plick. /s

[Vendome]

These statements and more demonstrate the seperateness of Christianity and Mormonism.

The only reason they say "We are Christian" is an attempt to morph into something they are not and co-opt Christianity.

 

"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world"
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 270

"...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels."
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60

"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p.

"Christians—those poor, miserable priests brother Brigham was speaking about—some of them are the biggest whoremasters there are on the earth, and at the same time preaching righteousness to the children of men. The poor devils, they could not get up here and preach an oral discourse, to save themselves from hell; they are preaching their fathers' sermons —preaching sermons that were written a hundred years before they were born. ...You may get a Methodist priest to pour water on you, or sprinkle it on you, and baptize you face foremost, or lay you down the other way, and whatever mode you please, and you will be damned with your priest.
- Apostle Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, v. 5, p. 89

"What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast."
- Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent."
- Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255

"After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon."
- Apostle George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, p. 324

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

"I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

"What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute best." (John Taylor, JD 13:225)

"What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing...Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God." (John Taylor, JI) 13:225)

"Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177)

"...brother Joseph B. Nobles once told a Methodist priest, after hearing him describe his god, that the god they worshiped was the "Mormon's" Devil-a being without a body, whereas our God has a body, parts and passions." (Brigham Young, JD 5:331)

"...the great apostate church as the anti-christ...This great antichrist...is the church of the devil." (Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine p.40)

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the "whore of Babylon" whom the lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness." (Pratt, The Seer, p.255)

 

“God is not at its head, making that church [i.e., Christianity] – following the appearance in it of Satan – no longer the church of God. To say that Satan sits in the place of God in Christianity after the time of the apostles is not to say that all that is in it is Satanic.”
- Kent P. Jackson, “Early Signs of Apostasy,” Ensign, December 1984, p. 9

1 Nephi 14:10 "Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of god, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth."

"Orthodox Christian views of God are pagan rather than Christian" (Mormon Doctrine of Deity, B. H. Roberts [General Authority], 116).

Brigham Young: “…and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is Antichrist.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol 9 pg 312).

Mormon Apostle Hyrum M. Smith,- “In fact, my brethren and sisters, if the falsity of a religion can be measured in any degree by the amount of trouble and turmoil and strife and bitterness and hatred that it has engendered in the hearts of men, if it can be judged by the number of wars it has carried on and the rivers of blood it has shed, the amount of misery and sorrow, it has caused, or the extremes of impurity, found among its adherents, then Christianity, that which is known as Christianity, is the falsest of all religions in the world… The trouble is, as God declared to Joseph the Prophet, mankind have gone astray. Their religions are an abomination in his sight, and their professors are corrupt because they have turned away from the truth and have turned unto fables.” (Conference Report, October 1916, p.43).

 

 

The plaque above is found in Temple Square with Joseph Smith a top it.

Do the Latter Day Saints corporately and collectively believe this and support that view point?  Of course they do.  Otherwise, if there is no resurrected church then there is no LDS.

But everyone outside their group is "Anti-Mormon"?  LOL  They are Anti-Christian and seek not only to undermine Christianity and their beliefs but outright work to subordinate one man to another, in that one must accept the Prophets words as sacrosanct and inviolable.

No man pays fealty to another as their superior because their so called god ordains it.

[gemoftheocean]

Amen, servo, amen. However much they want to count themselves Christians, the belief that they can become gods themselves rules them out. That and that they don’t believe in the trinity as the rest of us do. Unitarians don’t qualify either as they don’t believe in the Trinity.

My own church (Catholic) fully accepts the baptisms of all protestants who convert as having been already validly conferred. [If there is any doubt if the right formula was used i.e. with water and being “baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - a conditional baptism would be used. i.e. “If you are not baptized I baptize you in the name...etc.” ] But any Mormon wanting to convert will be first Baptized, as they are not considered Christians.

[ladyL]

There is one and only one test to measure if a group is a cult and not Christian. Jesus gave the bottom line when He asked Peter, “Who do you say I am?” That is the one and only question we are to ask.

Jesus/Yahshua was Elohim...fully God and fully man. That's it. Period. Seventh Day Adventists have Ellen G. white say Jesus was Michael the Archangel...Jehovah Witnesses have Jesus as Michael and Mormons have him as Lucifer's brother. Oh my.
Bottom line it with people...ask them who they say Jesus is, that will tell you where they are coming from.

[ladyL]

There is one and only one test to measure if a group is a cult and not Christian. Jesus gave the bottom line when He asked Peter, “Who do you say I am?” That is the one and only question we are to ask.

Jesus/Yahshua was Elohim...fully God and fully man. That’s it. Period. Seventh Day Adventists have Ellen G. white say Jesus was Michael the Archangel...Jehovah Witnesses have Jesus as Michael and Mormons have him as Lucifer’s brother. Oh my.
Bottom line it with people...ask them who they say Jesus is, that will tell you where they are coming from.

[Sherman Logan]

Christians...some of them are the biggest whoremasters there are on the earth, and at the same time preaching righteousness to the children of men.

This statement is of course absolutely true.

[Kaslin]

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[Sherman Logan]

Though it’s pretty rich coming from a guy who pimped out his own 14 year old daughter.

[Tainan]

ping to the same ol tune...played in a major key.

[Vaquero]

Made up stories of how a new gospel of JC was found and the veracity of what actually happened or did not happen in the real world in those stories.

Vs

True stories of men who actually lived 2000 and more years ago who preached via stories of a God and Creation whose veracity can only be accepted by faith.

Tough one.

[teppe]

In response,

Ye who have no sin, let him cast the first stone ....

I’m sorry that a direct ancestor of Christ, through whom God had designated as the Christ’s lineage had hundreds of polygamous wives (ie David, Soloman).

I’m sorry that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob chose Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, two of the three confirmed polygamist.

I’m sorry that Christ asked his disciples to be “one, even as we are one, as though father are in me and I in the that they may be one in us”.

I’m sorry that your definition of the oneness of God and Christ forever prohibits you as a disciple from obeying this fervent prayer of Christ since you or they as a disciple could never join as...

....twelve in one, and one in twelve, but not dividing the substance, or combining the hypostasis, but there are being of the twelve and twelve bings of the one, ..... repeat with various differnces ad nasuem ....

I’m Sorry that Christ actually was the Son of the Living God as the Bible said, and that when He cried out on Calvary “My Father, Why has though forsaken me”. That he was truly Calling out to his Father in Heaven and not to some mysterious multiple personality of his own being.

I am also sorry that you do not allow for the possibility of Faith and the Testimony of the Holy Ghost.

I’m sorry that while you read the Book of Mormon in 2006 that you obviously read it hand in hand with the best and most inflammatory of anti-mormon literature, since you appear to be more conversant with that than you are about the doctrines of our church.

However, I am greatful, that when you read the bible that you did not subject it to the identical prejudice that you did the Book of Mormon, or you’d probably be praising people flying planes into the WTC.

I’d love to get into a Christian doctrinal comparison of my LDS beliefs vs yours and the Bible as well as the early pre nicene fathers beliefs ..... and you may find that most of all ..... your Christian beliefs have been compromised, distorted, reinterpreted, transformed and replaced from the original doctrine of Jesus Christ.

I as a Latter Day Saint (Mormon) state that I humbly seek to devote my life, talents, time, resources, and family to my Eternal Father in Heaven and his literal Son, the Only Begotten of God, Jesus Christ.

I’m sorry that in your mind this makes me unchristian.

I am also sorry, that through ample personal experiences, Jesus Christ has shown me that he does not share your opinion.

[ontap]

That could be said of any group of people!!!

[cuban leaf]

I was accused by someone of being a Jehova’s witness simply because I believe the unsaved do not suffer conscious torture for time unending. I told him that I believe that both JW’s and Mormonism take Christianity, jack it up, remove the foundation and replace it with a thin sheet of styrofoam.

It looks Christian until you actually look closely.

[teppe]

Sorry but your very silly.

The bible teaches that God is the (literal) Father of Jesus Christ, he is also the Father (creator) of Lucifer, he is also my father and your father in heaven.

In the sense that all of Gods creations are brothers and sisters, yes .... if you care to bark up that tree, I guess that you could make the acertion that Jesus Christ and Satan are spiritual brothers.

I could also make a similarly inflamatory remark by saying that your reliance on the Nicen, Apostolic and Athenasian Creeds create a definition of God the Father as having a three-way personality disorder. Here in earthlife, with modern medicne that particular can be cured with psychiatric medication.

In otherwords .... I worship God the eternal father through his son Jesus Christ.....

....and in a parallel distorted and inflamatory way to your view of my faith, it could be said that .... your worship of God the Father includes a multiple personality disorder.

[showme_the_Glory]

bkmrk

[Utah Binger]

I am sorry that the science of genetics has refuted claims made in the Book of Mormon concerning the relationship between Native Americans and Semitic people. These refutations undermine the entire historical premise of the Book of Mormon.