Posted on 05/28/2013 11:03:23 AM PDT by republicanbred
So I am trying to not make this post into a pity party. I just want to get some input from other Freepers regarding facing these issues in their family. I am a pro-second amendment, pro-life, anti-Obama woman. I am also very strong in my belief in God. Okay, all that said I am in a position where all of my extended family with few exceptions are complete Obama koolaid drinking fanatics, anti-God, pro gay rights, pro abortion up to and including delivery. I have used FB for a while to post my views, I have quite a following because of it. My entire liberal family is blocked from my posts. My comments such as, "those who support abortion are no different than the Germans who stood by and watched while Jews were thrown into ovens" were deemed offensive by them when they were on my FB. I mention that one because they keep throwing it in my face. Anyway, I am at a place where I need to either make peace with some of them for the good of the family by apologizing for offensive comments, or say, "I am who I am, and if it takes me shouting this from the rooftops for it to be heard then so be it." I keep thinking about the American revolution and the Civil War, brothers against brothers, and believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are in the fight of our lives under this POTUS. Because those of us willing to stand up and share the truths of what is going on in this country are a minority, I know many of you face the same issues. Any thoughts on how you have handled or would handle it?
For years, my children listened to my husband and I drone on about how dangerous the political class has become; about how many liberties are being taken with the Constitution and what a slippery slope we were on. At first, they listened respectfully and then it became apparent they were becoming uncomfortable. Recently, their life situations have changed in such a way that they began to understand what we had been warning them about for years.
Don't change yourself or do for others what they're not willing to do for you. Agree to disagree and leave it at that or if that's not possible, tell them you are who you are - take it or leave it. At least you'll know that social issues are more important than familial bonds.
For me, blood is only slightly thicker than water, especially in these days just before the war.
Matthew 12:46-50
While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
I look forward to hearing about the decision you make on this topic.
Facebook is exactly that. A face, a facade, a fictitious icon the feeble use to fool one another.
This person I created has nothing in common with me, lives nowhere near me, and shares nothing with me whatsoever except my world view. He was created with a Gmail account that I use solely for junk stuff.
It’s oddly fun sometimes. I have a couple hundred “friends”.
I post political views on political pages, and have other stuff on my personal page.
I had a run-in with my nephew and his wife, but we agreed to disagree and don’t discuss politics.
if you are the one who has to apologize and go sit in the corner with your mouth shut you dont believe a dammed word you say
You stick to your guns.
The truth is the truth and you must not cave in to evil in any way no matter how small or even to get along with liberals.
Remain strong.
Proverbs 31: 10,31 “For who can find a virtuous woman? For her price is far above rubies. Give her of the fruit of her hands, and let her own works praise her at The Gates.”
Carry on the good fight!
If you start apologizing for telling the truth, it will never end.
And believe me, they won’t cease spewing Leftist crap in order to get along with you.
You can’t pick your family, but you can limit the effect they have in your life and you can pick very good friends. I recommend the latter.
My brother-in-law and in-laws are Leftists, although I suspect that my father-in-law has simply given-up and given-in to arguing with his wife and son.
I’m cordial, but remind them to keep their Leftist opinions to themselves unless they really want to defend themselves.
Change your will and leave each of them a shoebox of fresh dogpoop, in a well-sealed ZipLoc Baggie, with an appropriate note: “You got what you voted for, cuz/aunt/uncle etc”. Then, just ignore them, as you’ll never change their thirst for “FREE SH*T!”; trust me.
NEVER give in to their demands that you believe something that goes against your convictions. Also, NEVER allow them to shut you up regarding your convictions. It is inappropriate for them to even suggest that they can hold a political positions, but you cannot.
Have a former friend who was in my wedding. Four years ago I disagreed with an political email he sent. Then sent a Christmas email we usually exchanged. He never responded to either.
Haven’t heard from him since.
You have a right to your beliefs and opinions and to share them in a group or setting where others are doing the same. Treat them respectfully and stay calm.
I will add, many relationships have soured over differences in politics and religion.
Best wishes!
This works for us almost all the time, but I'll admit there has been a time or two that a dinner roll has flown across the table. :p
Acknowledge your disagreement.
Be clear that you are not interested in debate.
Remind them you love them.
Agree to treat each other with respect.
Keep in mind they may occasionally slip up and make some wisecrack or needling comment. Don't freak out. Just remind them you are not going to agree but its ok, you still love them.
Now if they refuse to respect your point of view and they are ugly about it... don't bother wasting your time. And its ok to let them know why you won't be around! "I'd love to spend time with you, but I'm really not interested in fighting. We already know we are not going to agree. Let me know if you want to talk about something else. Bye!"
OMG!!! We could be twins! I have that same problem with my family except for my mother who is conservative like me. Just be yourself, and post what you want.
I’ve done my political postings but now I’m going to stop because that’s not what is going to save this country. I am now focused on God will try and post more on the Bible or related items, so with the help from God, I can bring people into a relationship with his son, Jesus.
About your most “offensive” FB remark: “those who support abortion are no different than the Germans who stood by and watched while Jews were thrown into ovens”
I have been listening to Chuck Missler’s podcasts this year. He has been covering the book of Revelation. During his talks he pointed out that if anyone wanted to point fingers for the holocaust, one would have to point at the silent pulpits of the churches in Germany during WWII.
You seem to have established a pulpit.
On the other hand, as others have pointed out, if you could change one thing about your family, it should be the “anti-God” stance they take. The rest is peanuts by comparison. When Paul advocated being offensive for the sake of Christ, he wasn’t talking about political discussions.
The division in this nation is approaching the point where people will die over it, it is no longer just a matter of everyday differences of opinion, it's come to the point of liberalism constituting a tangible threat. It cannot just be laughed off, freedom is at stake.
Two things, one for them and one for you:
1. For them, http://3801lancaster.com/ 21 minutes to watch. Watch how they respond to it.
2. For you, Mathew 10:14 or Luke 9:3-5:
He said to the apostles, “When you travel, don’t take a walking stick. Also, don’t carry a bag, food, or money. Take for your trip only the clothes you are wearing. When you go into a house, stay there until it is time to leave. If the people in the town will not welcome you, go outside the town and shake their dust off of your feet. This will be a warning to them.”
Key Thought
Some folks are determined to reject the message of Jesus. There are many reasons why this is true, but they all boil down to one truth — Satan has poisoned their hearts to the good news of God’s Kingdom in Jesus Christ. Rather than keep beating our heads against a wall that the evil one has erected in the heart of someone, God calls us to move on in our efforts to reach others. If we are in the same family or office or neighborhood and have regular proximity to them and can’t move on, then we are called to live our faith before them and pray that our actions will demonstrate the faith we profess and win them before the day of Christ.
Apologizing is a sign of weakness that feeds libs and muslims alike. They smell blood in the water at your contrition and then get the idea that they are right and you know you are wrong.
Well...what end are you trying to achieve? If you are trying to be opinionated and let the world know how you feel, then say what you want. If you are trying to be persuasive to people you know initially disagree with you, then couch your language and terms in ways that will keep their ears and hearts open.
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