"MU research chief wants 'cold fusion' puzzle solved"

The Columbia Daily Tribune ^ | December 3, 2011 | Janese Silvey

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"That’s the opinion of Rob Duncan, vice chancellor of research at the University of Missouri. He is in the early stages of pitching a plan to establish a national research program that would help scientists study tabletop energy.......

“Without a nationally funded program, you’re going to be limited by the scope of what you can do,” he said.......

Duncan is optimistic higher-ups might be willing to pay attention, even in tight budget times. At a conference in August, representatives from the Naval Research Laboratory presented findings from several experiments where excess heat was produced in a laboratory.".......

(this article was updated recently)

[Boogieman]

"Except there are multiple hundreds of demolition experts and structural engineers who disagree with you."

There are a whole lot more that agree with me.

"And BTW you have not seen "massive structural damage" to that building nor can you post a pic of it because the building was basically intact at the time it was pulled."

So you're calling me a liar? Don't tell me what I have or have not seen. Now, I WILL post the pics, just to prove you wrong, though I don't hold out much hope that it will change your attitude:

I'm sorry, but in the real world, a building that is missing an entire corner, from the 18th floor down to the ground, does not qualify as "basically intact", especially in when you are talking about cantilever construction. A more appropriate description would be "fatally compromised".

[Wonder Warthog]

"Shoo! You’ve been dismissed."

Shoo yourself. I won't be "dismissed" any more than you chronic skeptopaths. Apparently you are either unable or unwilling to actually discuss the experimental science (as is typical of pretty much ALL the anti-LENR types that have posted on these threads), so you resort to inanities.

[monocle]

An interesting comparison would be the cumulative dollars funded by the government on high energy fusion and low energy fusion and divide those totals by the cumulative energies produced by each of the two processes.

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I think that’s been attempted but what would it really show? If neither have no foreseeable application then it would seem the better part of caution to be tight fisted about the spending.

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But you have been dismissed so off you go now, there’s a lad, Ta Ta.
No “flamewars” tolerated here.

[Wonder Warthog]

"But you have been dismissed so off you go now, there’s a lad, Ta Ta. No “flamewars” tolerated here."

Ah, yes. Another self-appointed posting vigilante. Why does this NOT surprise me. It's OK for you skeptopaths to deluge LENR threads with garbage posts, but not for you to be called on it.

[monocle]

I think such a comparison would show that LENR spending would be far more efficient than high energy fusion funding. I am not aware of any high energy fusion tests that have lasted for any meaningful lengths of time.

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It might, it might not. But since neither has produced useful energy (or will in the foreseeable future) it's a bit difficult to think of efficiency.

[monocle]

The LENR processes have produced excess energies for long enough periods to be utilized by known techniques, however inefficient. With high energy fusion many technical problems would have to be addressed to utilize the excess energy. Materials would be a major technical hurdle.

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The subject of the thread is LENR, etc., not you. If you wish to comment on those aspects of LENR discussed in the post and related matters, then welcome back.

There’s enough meat on the cold fusion bone to allow a few more servings.

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“The LENR processes have produced excess energies for long enough periods to be utilized by known techniques, however inefficient”

Someone has made “excess energies” for enough hot water to take a shower or heat a house? Who might that be?

As for the hot fusion folks....they have a long, long wait ahead.

[monocle]

There have been numerous LENR tests that have produced excess energies for quite long periods of time - the problem has always been the ability to reproduce such results. If the mechanism of LENR processes were understood, commercialization would follow very rapidly.

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And so research should continue to determine if commercialization is possible.

[monocle]

If federal tax dollars are to be spent, the technology providing the fastest payout should be pursued.

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Reasonably so. How often are funding decisions quite UNreasonable? Maybe some of the money from hot fusion could be redirected but I doubt that will happen either.

[Wonder Warthog]

"The subject of the thread is LENR, etc., not you. If you wish to comment on those aspects of LENR discussed in the post and related matters, then welcome back."

Look back upthread, old boy. "I" wasn't the one who changed the subject away from LENR funding.....you were.

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I am not going to play a “tit-for-tat” game with you. and so I'll not respond further.