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1 posted on 04/12/2013 6:46:38 AM PDT by pabianice
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Sites like Gunbroker let you buy online and they send it to an FFL dealer of your choice to complete the purchase process.


2 posted on 04/12/2013 6:48:03 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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This is another lie.


3 posted on 04/12/2013 6:48:10 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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It is another hype like the “gunshow loophole”. If you purchase a gun over the Internet you must go through a FFL dealer if it crosses a state line.


4 posted on 04/12/2013 6:49:34 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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The law is even more restrictive than that.

You can not ship your own gun, purchased through a dealer and with the background check, back to the manufacturer for warranty and then receive it when warranty is completed, without both shipments going through a licensed firearms dealer.


5 posted on 04/12/2013 6:50:36 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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or is this just another case of media corruption?
Media corruption.
6 posted on 04/12/2013 6:51:34 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Yes, you can buy/pay online, but you can’t accept delivery except through a FFL dealer. So this is a half-truth.


8 posted on 04/12/2013 6:54:42 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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This would ban internet coordination of personal sales.

For instance, if you want to advertise on-line for the local sale of your firearm, that transaction would have to go through an FFL.

You couldn’t just meet and conduct the transaction.

I wouldn’t do it, just for personal safety....but it’s none of the guv’s bidness.


9 posted on 04/12/2013 6:55:01 AM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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Is there such a thing as "buying a gun over the internet" or is this just another case of media corruption?

You have to ask???!?

Yes, you can buy a gun online. No, you cannot take possession of it until you complete a background check with an FFL.

Of COURSE the media lies. It's ALL they do, any more.

11 posted on 04/12/2013 6:55:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To put simply, there is no such thing as a ‘gun show loophole’ or ‘internet loophole’. If you buy a gun from a dealer at either of these, you still have to go through a standard background check. When you buy online, all you are doing is starting a transfer process to send the firearm to a FFL who then will have you complete the background check.

To repeat. They are lying!


12 posted on 04/12/2013 6:57:06 AM PDT by mnehring
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It’s the BIG LIE
Anyone surprised ?


14 posted on 04/12/2013 6:59:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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I can only speak for my state, NC, but if it is a long gun and the seller and buyer are from NC, no FFL is required. So if you win an auction in NC, then the private seller can send the long gun directly to you. Also, there is a website called ARMSLIST that is an online bulletin board; which allows you to list your weapon and the buyer calls the seller and makes a deal. Usually in ARMSLIST, you buy locally, so you conduct a private sale. From my understanding of the senate bill, just the fact that you post a listing offering to sell, then it has to go through an FFL. Additionally, we know that this is the first step on a slippery slope.


16 posted on 04/12/2013 6:59:15 AM PDT by fini
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This whole line of defending the Dems’ gun-grabbing is specifically aimed at Americans who don’t know anything about guns and have never purchased a gun. The only way your can buy a gun without a background check is from a private individual, face to face, and you both live in the same state. Nobody is going to mail you a gun. It MUST be mailed to a federally licensed gun dealer. (You can buy some specific parts through the mail but that’s because they’re not considered a firearm.) Nobody at a gun show is going to sell you a gun without a background check. Your sale isn’t worth losing their license, their entire business and spending time in the federal slammer!


17 posted on 04/12/2013 7:01:37 AM PDT by servo1969
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Another lie. More propaganda.

You cannot ship a gun to a residence unless the resider has a FFL and has filled out the proper paperwork.

You can only ship to FFL dealers.

Any legit company (Gander Mountaing for example)is not going to risk their license to ship anyone a gun.


18 posted on 04/12/2013 7:02:24 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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Add to that... the FFL dealer must fax approp paperwork to the selling company before the seller will ship.


19 posted on 04/12/2013 7:03:42 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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You can purchase online, but the firearm must be picked up in person at an FFL. Thus, you have to go to the seller, or have the firearm shipped to an FFL for a transfer.

There is no loophole.


23 posted on 04/12/2013 7:18:07 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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This”LoopHole”business has got be exposed for The BIG LIE that it is!I have bought firearms”online”.The firearm is then sent to my local dealer(FFL),and I go through the exact same procedures that I would if I had purchased the same firearm through him.It’s the same with”GunShows”!!There are NO”LoopHoles”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 04/12/2013 7:40:02 AM PDT by bandleader
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At least we can still buy muzzleloader/black powder weapons on-line without a FFL.
Luckily there ain’t no semi-auto black powder weapons.


31 posted on 04/12/2013 8:03:19 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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33 posted on 04/12/2013 8:08:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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As others have said, it’s a lie or at best a half truth. Any out of state online firearm purchase must go through a FFL dealer and there will be a background check. Guns bought through an internet ad from a private seller in the same state and paid for and collected face to face do not require a background check. At least that’s the way it is in Florida. This is the same as selling a TV or car on Craigslist. One private individual is selling his personal property to another private individual. This should be none of the governments business.


34 posted on 04/12/2013 8:54:08 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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It’s gross ignorance, akin to thinking meat bought at a store is “humane” because it is shrink-wrapped and on a shelf instead of shot by a hunter. (Someone have that picture I’m referring to?)

They don’t understand that “buying guns on the Internet” is two sales: one from individual seller to licensed dealer, then licensed dealer to end buyer.


35 posted on 04/12/2013 9:02:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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