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Boy, 11, and his mother are arrested after he 'raped his 6-year-old sister'...
mailonline ^ | Hayley Peterson

Posted on 03/12/2013 8:17:06 PM PDT by Morgana

FULL TITLE: Boy, 11, and his mother are arrested after he 'raped his 6-year-old sister' and the mother failed to report the alleged assault

An 11-year-old Oklahoma boy and his mother have been arrested after the boy allegedly raped his 6-year-old sister and the mother failed to report the incident, according to authorities.

Police made the arrests on Friday afternoon after an Oklahoma Department of Human Services worker received a tip about the alleged assault and interviewed family members.

The 6-year-old girl told the human services worker that she was in her bedroom doing homework on Wednesday when her brother and a 7-year-old cousin asked her to pull her pants off, according to a police report obtained by MailOnline.

The girl said after her pants were off, both of the boys 'put their things in her and it hurt,' the police report states. The victim added that her mother told her not to tell anyone about the incident.

MailOnline is not naming any of the suspects or witnesses in order to protect the identity of the victim.

When the DHS worker confronted the mother, she admitted that she did not take the girl to the hospital or report the incident. The mother said she spoke to her son about the incident and he told her it was his younger cousin who assaulted her daughter.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: childrape; moralabsolutes; oklahoma; rape
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To: Two Kids' Dad

What kind of hard time would be appropriate for kids their age?


41 posted on 03/13/2013 4:51:23 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Windflier

Prurient interests are noble...aren’t they?


42 posted on 03/13/2013 4:54:09 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: higgmeister

Maybe they don’t consider it appropriate?


43 posted on 03/13/2013 4:56:04 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: LibertyRocks

You wish you didn’t know so much about this, yet you still tell everyone?


44 posted on 03/13/2013 4:57:41 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Morgana
The saddest part about this story is that neither the paper nor any of the posters here ask the obvious question: Where was the boy's father?

I cannot imagine the sort of hell there would be to pay had I or anyone of my generation done anything like this and my father learned of it. But we now live in a world where single motherhood is considered "normal" even on FR and so it is natural that "the state" takes over the father role.

Raising boys in the absence of a real father is a recipe for trouble. This is just one example. But no point dwelling on root causes. That would spoil the 'outrage'.

45 posted on 03/13/2013 5:32:32 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Morgana
“Rape” seems a bit of a stretch. It sounds like some kids roughhousing and playing “doctor”. 11 is a bit old but this type of play has been going on since the beginning of man,

Obviously the mother should have a talk with them but this is hardly something to call the ghestapo over.

People call the cops for anything these days...

46 posted on 03/13/2013 5:55:08 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: GladesGuru
I agree - there is no reason to wallow in the behavior of those who dwell in the shallow end of the acculturation pool.

It's like the evening 'news'. Most of us won't watch it, because it's full of sensationalism and violence that does nothing to actually inform the viewer.

The OP has been posting articles with a focus on sexual perversion on FR for a long time now. I've asked her before what value these articles bring to the forum, but she's never answered.

47 posted on 03/13/2013 7:39:53 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: LibertyRocks
Excuse me? I thought that this was a public forum. I am no-one’s “minion”.

Nothing personal, but I directly addressed another member, and you butted in. I would have reacted to that interference the same way in real life.

I asked Morgana a question. She needs to speak for herself.

48 posted on 03/13/2013 7:47:43 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: stuartcr
Prurient interests are noble...aren’t they?

I suppose it depends on one's point of view. For someone looking up at life from the gutter, prurient interests probably are noble.

49 posted on 03/13/2013 8:01:34 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Sounds relative


50 posted on 03/13/2013 8:05:25 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr
Sounds relative

Indeed, it is.

51 posted on 03/13/2013 8:18:56 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: stuartcr

Well, you can always scroll past my commentary if you wish. Others - especially those in bad situations currently - usually appreciate knowing they can talk to someone who does know...

I am not ashamed of what happened to me, nor to my daughters. It wasn’t our fault, and if I didn’t speak out and share my experiences it wouldn’t stop the abuse, it would help to shove these problems back under the rug where they were for so long...


52 posted on 03/13/2013 1:09:49 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

ok


53 posted on 03/13/2013 1:34:12 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: AustinBill
See my post #7... just FTR:
I’m guessing (from known statistics) that their father is either not in the home, or is estranged, etc...

I didn't even bother asking the question, he wasn't mentioned, so I figured it was a safe assumption.

The root causes definitely matter... As does the reaction of a parent who discovers such abuse is going on, but is yet willing to cover it up - whether the parent is single, or not.
54 posted on 03/13/2013 2:19:26 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: tinamina

You are most certainly welcome. I’m glad my sharing with you may be able to help in some way. I’ll keep your family in my prayers, for sure. Give your sister a giant hug, and tell her to stay strong. Mothers are not always the one to blame, and sometimes things definitely happen without us knowing about it... I don’t know any mother that is absolutely omniscient.

I don’t honestly know where some of these very young boys get these thoughts - they are so very young... Especially in the case you’re talking about where there wasn’t a big age difference.

In the case above, as well as the one I’m familiar with it was pretty easy to see that the older child was acting in more of a “ringleader” type position, and a child at the age of 7 may go along with things they would never think of, or contemplate doing on their own... I feel sorry for both of the younger children involved, and hope there is a way for the older boy to be rehabilitated.

Anyway, my best wishes to you and your family. I know the pain of estrangement all too well. {{Hugs}}


55 posted on 03/13/2013 2:28:01 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (By speaking out one is no longer a victim, they are then a survivor...)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
I’m no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but a 7 yr old & 11 yr old doing these things suggests either poor parenting or the possibility they had been victimized.

Yep... I used to believe that it was definitely a sign of prior victimization of (at least) the older child. However, in reading over the years that the boys most likely to have these issues are raised in a home with no father, or where they are estranged from the father for some reason (even if there is a step-father in the picture). Depending on any other possible behaviors the older one exhibits it could be either, or even both.
56 posted on 03/13/2013 2:35:19 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (By speaking out one is no longer a victim, they are then a survivor...)
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To: varyouga

You’re wrong, imo... This is not typical playing doctor. If it were just the 6 and 7 year old, I might agree with you (w/out the penetration part, of course) - as I agree that society is almost going around the bend as far as “zero tolerance” and the normal happenings between girls and boys at that age who are too innocent to know.

However, in this case you have an 11-year-old who is obviously old enough, to complete the act of rape, and definitely old enough to “direct” the interaction of the other child.

As horrible as it may seem, it’s a fact, and it happens more often than people want to know... Talk to a few law enforcement officers if you have any doubts. The records are usually all sealed in cases like this, but many are quite as devastating as the ones where the details all become public knowledge...


57 posted on 03/13/2013 2:43:09 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (By speaking out one is no longer a victim, they are then a survivor...)
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To: stuartcr
Prurient interests are noble...aren’t they?

Interesting choice of words... "Prurient Interests"??? Really? You find this discussion somehow sexually arousing, or it causes lustful desires in you? Wow... That choice of wording says way more about you than those discussing the topic at hand, that's for sure.

Perhaps you really should just stay off these types of threads then. Or perhaps you need to seek help. Nothing about this thread should provoke sexually arousing thoughts, nor lustful desires in anyone - if you feel that it does then I suggest you find a psychologist. Those feelings are not normal, I assure you of that.
58 posted on 03/13/2013 2:50:05 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks
Do you somehow perceive that this girl will find greater happiness with her mother in jail, and her brother in some other home?

Truly this is the worst possible outcome for her.

59 posted on 03/13/2013 2:50:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Honestly, the worst possible outcome would have been for the abuse to continue. I am not a fan of splitting up families, but the mother has failed her daughter by telling her to keep the secret. I praise the older sister for knowing the right thing to do.

Do I think it’s possible she will find more happiness if the abuse has been stopped? I believe she has a far greater chance to. As for her mother being in jail, that will be up to a judge to decide, and the judge knows many more facts than we do.

In regard to her 11-year-old brother? I wholeheartedly believe that it is right for him to be held responsible for his actions. If it had been kept a secret - especially at his age, especially knowing that there are adults that would cover for him - he would be way more likely to continue the assaults, and perhaps branch out to other victims as he continues to age. I hope that now he gets the help that he needs to stop his abusive behavior, and learn proper behavior instead.

It appears pretty clear to me that they all need a lot of help, frankly. I’m a fan of reunification of families that have “lost their way” so to speak for various reasons. However, not if that reunification puts a victim at more risk of abuse or retribution for doing the right thing - which was to tell.


60 posted on 03/13/2013 3:02:15 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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