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Idea: Tax imports, encourage American production for a change.
(vanity) | 2/18/13 | (vanity)

Posted on 02/18/2013 7:45:43 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

OK let me offer an idea, contrary to what seems now to be the thought of everyone in both parties.

Americans need to make things.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: imports
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To: CSM
How about corporate tax reductions and the elimination of thousands of regulations?

You could eliminate ALL govt regulations and taxes and the off shoring religion would continue. The MBA factories are alters of the church of "free trade". Besides large global corporations love regulations, they can afford the staff and lawyers for compliance, the little guy not so much. So FedGov™ is like a partner to these gloBULL corps.

61 posted on 02/18/2013 8:49:52 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Nah; I’m in favor of replacing all income taxes with consumption taxes.

They help capital formation, encourage retirement savings, and make the cost of government extremely explicit.

Right now, the Sales Tax for government in this country would be over 35%.

Show that to the average low-information 0bama voter. They might even understand.


62 posted on 02/18/2013 8:50:50 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Bad idea, for at least two reasons:
It will immediately cause retaliatory tariffs on American export goods.
Don't give the gov't any more ways to collect money or any more thumbscrews to torture the economy with.

Much better than import tariffs would be to lower the cost of running a business here. Less taxes, ease regulations.

63 posted on 02/18/2013 8:50:59 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: plain talk
As long as we have high union labor costs

We DON'T have high union costs in the USA. 96% of the private sector is NON-UNION. So get a new straw man, that one died a long time ago.

64 posted on 02/18/2013 8:51:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: plain talk
As long as we have high union labor costs

We DON'T have high union costs in the USA. 96% of the private sector is NON-UNION. So get a new straw man, that one died a long time ago.

65 posted on 02/18/2013 8:51:35 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"Wake up GOP. Turn this around. Be for American jobs. "

The GOP doesn't give a crap about increasing American jobs. They're just interested in bomb, bomb, bombing the world.

66 posted on 02/18/2013 8:52:49 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: BitWielder1
It will immediately cause retaliatory tariffs on American export goods.

That won't happen? Why? Because punitive tariffs on our exports ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, everywhere.

67 posted on 02/18/2013 8:55:11 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BitWielder1
"Much better than import tariffs would be to lower the cost of running a business here. Less taxes, ease regulations."

C'mon man we did that under Dubya but the jobs went to China and we went into recession. Maybe you think Coolie wages and polluted everything is for best future for Americans but they have a vote.

68 posted on 02/18/2013 9:00:11 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook

I think you have a point.

Can I ask anyone please? Is the Tea Party for American jobs?

Right now, neither the Dems nor GOP seem the least bit interested in American jobs.

Both are exporting and likewise unemploying Americans as rapidly as possible.

How about the Tea Party?

What please is the Tea Party position on trade? Is the Tea Party for American jobs?


69 posted on 02/18/2013 9:05:10 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

There aren’t only imports from China. There are imports on the shelves and clothing hangers from many countries around the world with a few having names I have never heard of before.

Do you want to stop all imports? Where would you get computer motherboards, for example, for the prices that are currently available?

The unions in this country have to be pounded down into the ground. Then and only then can we talk about taxing and/or limiting imports.


70 posted on 02/18/2013 9:07:39 AM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If you drastically lowered taxes and regulations on US businesses, then your “trade problem” would be resolved. If not, then your “solution” is nothing more than a tax increase on your fellow citizen.

Your solution is no different economically than Obama’s proposed minimum wage increase. It will drive up the cost of goods, but make some people think they are making more...


71 posted on 02/18/2013 9:08:18 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

A tariff doesn’t stop imports and private sector union participation(6%) is at a 96 year low.


72 posted on 02/18/2013 9:09:55 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

That is, of course, regarding a time when there were no income or other taxes; the fedgov was exclusively funded through such measures.


73 posted on 02/18/2013 9:12:02 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

That idea was once proposed by a guy named Ross Perot, and you can see what has happened since then as a result.


74 posted on 02/18/2013 9:12:08 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: central_va

“You could eliminate ALL govt regulations and taxes and the off shoring religion would continue.”

This statement proves that you are all rhetoric and no logic.

Let’s build a fence around our country to keep our manufacturers in, that way we can protect all of our jobs! We all really just want Trabants anyway! /s

“Besides large global corporations love regulations, they can afford the staff and lawyers for compliance, the little guy not so much.”

We can agree on this one, but again the MAGICAL solution is a drastic reduction in regulations and corporate taxes.


75 posted on 02/18/2013 9:13:15 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m not sure this is all Perot’s fault, actually.

Wasn’t he the one predicting this very problem, if we ignored his warnings?

I think Perot was one of the good guys.

(or was that your point, and I just misunderstood?)


76 posted on 02/18/2013 9:17:07 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

His prediction [snort] came before an economic boom that lasted more than a decade, if I recall.


77 posted on 02/18/2013 9:22:06 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: central_va
...private sector union participation(6%) is at a 96 year low.

Explain why manufacturers prefer to build their plants in Right-to-Work States.

78 posted on 02/18/2013 9:23:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
"His prediction [snort] came before an economic boom that lasted more than a decade, if I recall. "

You recall the Clinton boom when the computers were made here and before the Bush job sucking sound was felt here.

79 posted on 02/18/2013 9:32:02 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: central_va
The USA ran on tariffs for 80 years upon its founding. The income tax replaced tariffs, so are you pro 16th amendment?

I guess you are unaware that it was protectionists, like yourself, who were responsible for enacting the 16th Amendment.

The government managed trade you are so enthusiastic for, with all the instituted restrictions & barriers and economic liberties lost, is the very socialism you accuse others of wanting. Actually, what you desire is worse than socialism. You're here advocating for central planning and elitist and dictatorial command style economics that has absolutely nothing to do with economic liberty. Yup, nothing like having a bunch of brain dead Bolshevik politicians choosing winners and losers. Why not just admit that you favor central planning and hold nothing but contempt for the the economic choices of other people when they refuse to do as you want them to do. In the protectionist fever swamp in which statists like you exist, freedom is now equal to slavery, and more government control provides us with greater liberty. What a pile of crap.

People who think in this twisted manner believe we must limit economic freedom in order to preserve it. The fact that your retarded logic can find support here is a sad commentary on the state of our union. It is you who is bowing down in that graphic you posted earlier - bowing to the collectivist central planners who know what's best for you and your family. To me, free trade is fundamental to capitalism. It is the voluntary exchange of goods and services between two or more parties so that each party walks away from the exchange in better shape than they were before the transaction. Why anyone would have a problem with that is a mystery, but here you are.....

80 posted on 02/18/2013 9:33:30 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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