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Watch video at link. Very neat!


1 posted on 01/23/2013 2:21:15 AM PST by rawhide
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Euuuu! Looks like something that escaped from the roach motel.
2 posted on 01/23/2013 2:26:04 AM PST by Truth29
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Didn’t Lt. Columbo drive one those? There are “only three like it in the States”.


3 posted on 01/23/2013 2:36:53 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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Didn’t Lt. Columbo drive one those? There are “only three like it in the States”.


4 posted on 01/23/2013 2:36:53 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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Dear American recipient of hundreds of millions of taxpayer subsidies, your car is on fire and you’ve just gotten your ass kicked by the French.

U.S. Car Companies and Your Friendly Government have done a fine job keeping small, efficient diesels out of the US - and keeping Americans from knowing what they’re missing - but it’ll require some sneaky K-Street shenanigans to keep this one away.

Nevertheless, they will succeed. Don’t get your hopes up: If they can keep you from getting a Hilux or a Peugeot diesel, they’ll keep you from this one.


5 posted on 01/23/2013 2:45:52 AM PST by golux (Recti Cultus Pectora Roborant)
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Wouldn’t it just be eaiser to put Al Gore in the trunk facing backwards?


6 posted on 01/23/2013 2:48:54 AM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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Compressed air boost fed via regenerative braking is not new, it’s existed in commercial trucks for a while. Ford was doing some R&D on it a few years back in pickup trucks as I recall.

But, actually applying such a system to a passenger car and making it available to the public now is a major breakthrough, so congratulations are in order to Citroen. I’ve always admired Citroen, very innovative. They march to the beat of a different drummer. Their vision of “car” often isn’t at all like the American concept of a car, but when it works it’s something else.

Too bad they’re just a little too offbeat for the domestic market. I’d like to see them return.


7 posted on 01/23/2013 2:55:06 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Where’s the dryer?


8 posted on 01/23/2013 2:55:14 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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I am constantly pulling objects like that out from between my big rigs duals. Throws the tire balance out of whack, thanfully the screams are very short lived as well.

Needs foot pedals as well.

I bet the metrosexuals will get all horny seeing these.


11 posted on 01/23/2013 3:02:38 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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Color me skeptical, at least as the car is described in this poorly-written article.

There is no way a gas/air hybrid can run on air 80% of the time in city driving with air compressed by slowing down and braking. By definition, the energy produced this way must be less than 50% of the total used by the car during its trip, and when you figure in the losses in the various stages of the process a great deal less. I’d be very surprised if it’s as much as 25% of the time.

To get to the 80% number even for short trips you’d have to charge the air tanks initially, similar to recharging batteries in the garage overnight. Doing so, of course, uses electricity which must be generated using coal, gas or some other method.

Also, compressing air and then using it to drive motors, while highly convenient, is wildly inefficient.

The process for an IC car is: fuel burns, drives wheels, car moves.

For an air car it’s something like: fuel burns, drives turbine which turns generator to produce electricity, juice transmitted (with losses) to garage, electricity runs motor to run air pump, which compresses air with BIG energy losses, air is stored till released to run a not particularly efficient air motor which turns wheels, car moves.

Two stage process versus minimum five-stage process. By definition energy is lost at each stage, some more than others.


13 posted on 01/23/2013 3:14:02 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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Ridiculous...


14 posted on 01/23/2013 3:23:06 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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The air compression system can re-use all the energy normally lost when slowing down and braking.

How do they make the process adiabatic?

15 posted on 01/23/2013 3:25:46 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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Clown car alert.


18 posted on 01/23/2013 3:45:54 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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Peugeot Citroen unveil new 117mpg hybrid

Great concept, if the car could only make it 117 miles without requiring a visit to the mechanic.

21 posted on 01/23/2013 4:05:23 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Its scientists say it will knock 45 per cent off fuel bills for an average motorist.

But will the average motorist be able to afford one ??? Don't see any mention of the price but I'm guessing not...

23 posted on 01/23/2013 4:11:49 AM PST by Mopp4
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Citroen and Renault.......

Two reason why the French are known for their wines.


24 posted on 01/23/2013 4:14:16 AM PST by fredhead (I'm not losing my hair, it's just retired and relocating further south.)
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“...reuse all the energy lost when slowing down or breaking...” I don’t think so. There will be leaks. There well be friction. There will be heating of the fluid (air) during compression that then bleeds away... The real question is, even with all these losses, can they make the system more efficient than anelectrical regenerative braking system? Oh, being lighter, smaller, cheaper, safer, and longer lasting would be nice too.


26 posted on 01/23/2013 4:31:31 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Video - Air powered cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMkDU-Tc4Rw&feature=youtube_gdata_player


27 posted on 01/23/2013 4:42:42 AM PST by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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We're going to need a bigger car.

30 posted on 01/23/2013 4:57:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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I just like watching the French getting slapped.
32 posted on 01/23/2013 5:03:19 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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The air compression system can re-use all the energy normally lost when slowing down and braking.

A true free lunch. The weight of batteries is eliminated. Exploding gas cylinders are a concern, but the tanks will probably be constructed from fiberglass. Fiberglass tanks puncture and burst, but they don't produce shrapnel, like metal tanks. Could be a great urban vehicle.

33 posted on 01/23/2013 5:07:06 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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