Posted on 01/22/2013 10:49:32 AM PST by GreenEyedGal
I am asking for personal philosophies regarding when life begins. I believe a strong case can be made scientifically that life begins at conception. However, I've had conversations with the culture of death and they insist that a fertilized egg isn't alive; that a child growing in the womb is a parasite on the mother's body (which, a thought just occurred to me - parasites are living beings as well!); that it's not alive until it's viable (which means my four year old isn't alive!); that because it's attached to its mother's body, mother can decide whether she wants to keep it or not; that the growing, developing fetus is like cancer cells, which also reproduce.
Can you share your thoughts with me on these issues? I'm writing an article in defense of life. I would love to hear from a biologist or a medical doctor. I am also curious about abortifacients. What qualifies as an abortifacient? Pro-death advocates, and even some people who believe abortion is wrong believe the morning after pill is not an abortifacient. And David Green's stand on "week after" birth control is silly because there's no such thing. I thought it was RU486, but supposedly RU486 isn't the same thing as the week after pill.
Thanks for your input.
And just to clarify, I am prolife. Even in cases of rape and incest. I do not believe that the validity and value of life is determined by the circumstances of conception.
No, I’m just saying that every cell of every human being has an unbroken pedigree of living cells stretching back to the dawn of humanity.
Actually the abortionists don’t care about the answer to that question. Even birth doesn’t put a child beyond their grasps.
—The two cells that join in conception are alive even before the conception - life doesn’t “begin at conception”, it exists even before the conception.—
They are “alive” but they aren’t life/soul. They need to be combined to form life.
Abortion stops a beating heart. If a beating heart isn’t proof of life I don’t know what is. An infant outside the womb is just as dependent and parasitical as an infant inside the womb; the feeding is merely a little less automatic.
Some will argue that we cannot know when the soul enters the body and a fetus lacks a soul. We really don’t know this. However, technically our beloved pets lack souls but none of us would claim they are not ‘alive’ or that their lives are parasitical and worthless.
Abortion is nothing more than a murder of convenience.
Good stuff there!
Oh and Nancy Pelosi being sentenced to life in the Colorado supermax prison would be a nice finishing touch as well. Life would be like the ending to "A wonderful life" all the time.
"Daddy, everytime a bell rings that means another constitution shredding Democrat went to jail!"
"That's right! That's right!"
If you’re looking for a more scientific way to say it, perhaps you could say that since at conception, there is enough genetic material in place to define a new individual, that that would be the beginning of a new life.
Life begins w/ “AHHHHH”!
Or mayybe “O G*D”!
Questions make for excuses.
They need to combine, they need to successfully implant in the uterine wall, and they need to not spontaneously abort . . . I read somewhere that 20-25 percent of pregnancies spontaneously abort.
I wonder what the purpose of all that spontaneous aborting is, and what it portends for the ensoulment of babies.
Human life begins at conception without a doubt because it has never occurred otherwise, since a male and female human first walked this earth. No conception, no life, period, end of discussion.
Even in test tube babies, conception is the FIRST requirement. You can destroy sperm or an egg individually without killing a human but once those two meet, life begins.
After conception, cells are reproducing, which is another proof or requirement of life.
However, you may be wasting your time as the religion of death has overwhelmed us to the point where we would even elect a Marxists to the highest office in the land.
But a heart beat doesn’t start until about 18 days after conception (I’d always heard 21, but three days give or take - point is, it begins very early after the act of conception). In the development of my thoughts, I know that every cell in the body, skin, hair, bone, eye, kidney, liver - you name it - is a diploid cell. The two chromosomes contained therein contain two sets of DNA, one set from each parent. They split evenly to reproduce. I know I’m skipping over stuff, but I’m crunched for time. With reproductive cells, haploid cells, they require another haploid of the opposite sex to survive and reproduce. And when it joins with another haploid, the resulting cell has its own DNA. Its DNA is not identical to its mother or its father. Its DNA is all its own. To me, having your own unique DNA is the beginning of life. And then that one cell with its own unique DNA splits and becomes two, then four, eight, 16, 32, 64 and so on. If it’s not living, the number of cells wouldn’t reproduce exponentially, would they?
This is one of the reasons I would REALLY love to hear from a biologist or medical expert. I’m not clear on all the science, but I’m pretty sure it proves that life begins at conception.
I have not seen that before. Thank you.
You are alive before conception. And move into your new digs at conception.
If life didn’t begin until after conception you are automatically a resurrected being.
There is no question when Life begins. There never was. Period. You’re playing THEIR game.
Please watch the video at post #17.
I’m not a medical professional, so can’t say for certain with any authority what the fertilized human egg “is”, although if left alone, unmolested, I know what it “becomes”...
Human beings progress thru many stages in our lives, from birth, infancy, childhood, adolescence, adult, middle and old age, and finally death...
The moment of conception and the brief time spent in our mother’s womb are but more stages in this lifetime...
I believe a human life begins at conception...
Abortion for any reason other than a doctor’s advice based on sound medical necessity, and the mother’s life/good health is murder by the most fundamental definition of the term...
You are brave and have a sense of humour. I commend you for that, for what it’s worth.
Have you researched the history of this debate, when and how it started, what the ancients thought, wrote of it?
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