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The article doesn’t even consider all the “wrong house” raids and family dogs shot-—practices defended because their practitioners insist those tactics are necessary to fight the “War on Drugs”.
1 posted on 01/08/2013 12:23:08 PM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

The WOD have lost us anyway.


2 posted on 01/08/2013 12:23:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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It was the War on Freedom; drugs were just the vector. Making it normal for paramilitary police with faulty warrants to storm a house and shoot old ladies and fourteen year old dogs was always the objective. Protecting adults from the consequences of their free choices was pretty far down on the list of “benefits”.


3 posted on 01/08/2013 12:34:56 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/04/cheap_cocaine_why_are_coke_prices_going_down_.html

80-90% drop in cocaine price over three decades. The war has been won by the cocaine producers. We need a new strategy. Why not teach morality?


4 posted on 01/08/2013 12:38:53 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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>>Have We Lost the War on Drugs?<<

DUH!


5 posted on 01/08/2013 12:46:53 PM PST by servantboy777
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Have We Lost the War on Drugs?

I didn't take it. Did we misplace it?..........

8 posted on 01/08/2013 1:00:31 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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Expect the same tactics in their new War On Guns.


9 posted on 01/08/2013 1:03:37 PM PST by Argus
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All of us Prosecutors back when I practiced, and almost all of the police, thought the “war on drugs was absurd. It is a waste of time and resources and is like trying to mop up the Atlantic with a roll of paper towels.

Legalize it and educate.


11 posted on 01/08/2013 1:08:36 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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Anytime the Feds declare “War” on something, you know that the ensuing war is not meant to be won, but only fought. “War on Poverty” now has failed miserably but the money is in fighting it. And the control it gives the “fighters” over the lives of others. Same for the War on Drugs. It is hundreds of billions plus a lot of power for the “fighters.” Eventually people will understand the same for the “War on Terror.”


12 posted on 01/08/2013 1:10:03 PM PST by 2big2fail
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There was never a war on drugs, but a strategy to militarize the police and give the politicians a new were doing something for you mantra. It was an easy way to buy the loyalty of state and local cops. It has always been about money not drugs. If it was about drugs the confiscated money would have gone into treatment not new cars and guns for cops. It is the support your local police with drug money. Another federal head fake. See any less drugs on the streets?


14 posted on 01/08/2013 1:18:46 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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It’s nice to see how much attitudes towards the WOD have changed since I started lurking on this site a few years back. You’d have gotten a 10-1 negative response around here 7 years ago. Looks like that ratio has flipped.

WOD was never going to be ‘won’ in any practical sense, and it morphed into a testing lab for totalitarian command-and-control tactics.

We can’t even keep narcotics out of our maximum security prisons, much less off our streets. The harder we fight, the more profitable we make it for drug cartels. There never should have been a ‘war’ on drugs beyond education and treatment. And more to the point, not all social ills should be within the purview of fed.gov.


15 posted on 01/08/2013 2:07:50 PM PST by CowboyJay (Lowest Common Denominator 2012 - because liberty and prosperity were overrated)
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Considering the fact that we can’t keep drugs out of prisons, I would say yes.


16 posted on 01/08/2013 2:25:02 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Altariel

Exaggeration. There hasn’t been any war on drugs, yet.


19 posted on 01/08/2013 3:48:10 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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This writer is by definition Brain Dead, The government has been on both sides of the “War on some drugs” since the beginning. there are dozens of documentaries detailing Government Involvement in this War on People FOREVER, why do you think we Armed the Cartels and LAUNDERED their Money through the Fast and Furious Business Administration, or how about Barry Seal and Mena Arkansas, or since this is more recent, Just google “heroin” and see how our cities all over America are now inundated with HEROIN ever since we went to Afghanistan, which produces 95% of the WORLDS OPIUM. How does any of this happen without GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT?? It Can’t.. Anybody that actually believes in the War on Drugs is just plain stupid. Life is Hard, it’s harder when you’re stupid: John Wayne.


20 posted on 01/08/2013 6:44:43 PM PST by eyeamok
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All attempts to resurrect Babel and its schemes of perfecting Man are doomed to failure. It doesn’t follow that our only other option is lawlessness. Whatever the War on Drugs—TM owned by one Mr. LeRoy—means to different people, sane attempts to ameliorate the damage of intoxicants are no more statist than other grasps for security in a fallen world. Evil men will use security as a wedge to grab more power, but I’m afraid that’s just the pickle we’re in.


21 posted on 01/08/2013 9:26:31 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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The ‘war on drugs’ systematically federalized the local plice forces of all the municipalities of the nation.

It gave Washington, D.C., another hammer to control the States, through denying them any of this ‘new pool of money’, if the State did not swallow the federal government pill.

It allowed federal law enforcement agencies in existence then, and those created since, to encroach upon the unwary private American’s ways amd means of going about their daily business.

The ‘war on drugs’ has made many lawyers rich, while allowing their charges to live another day, and continue their illegal and deadly business, while making John Q./Jane Q. Public less safe, in their travels, their neighborhoods, their very homes.

The ‘war on drugs’ is married to ‘the war on guns’ in a zen fashion. While drug-related reportable crimes run rampant, John Q./Jane Q. Public are exprected to wait on The Nanny State for their ONLY means of protection, which is clearly anti-Constitutional. Personal expressions of self-preservation are being beaten down more and more, in the media, by elected officials, Congreemen and Senators, and even this President!

The Supremem Court has stated that the neighborhood police are NOT there to secure the individual safety of families and do NOT have the obligation to protect the individual American in their home.

Yes! The ‘war on drugs’ has been as much a national failure, as has the late President Johnson’s ‘The Great Society’.


23 posted on 01/09/2013 5:46:19 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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