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1 posted on 12/30/2012 2:22:02 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Even numbered Windows releases are terrible


2 posted on 12/30/2012 2:25:10 AM PST by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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My computer crashed and I needed a quick replacement so bought a cheap laptop with Windows 8. I absolutely despise taking familiar landscapes away from me to “force” me to adopt the new design (yahoo mail take note).

Windows 8 is New Coke.

If I wanted over-sugared, watered down pepsi, I would have bought a pepsi, let some ice melt in it, and put a few packs of sugar in it.

And. If I wanted an operating system that’s impossible to work on, I wouldn’t have bought a windows system. Microsoft has never held a claim to technical superiority. Their major market benefit is familiarity. When you blow off the very reason why your customers choose you, it can’t be very surprising that the result is lower usage.

Windows 8 is garbage. It doesn’t matter what new-fangled crap they put in it if it’s so damn impossible to navigate.

Windows 8 is garbage.


4 posted on 12/30/2012 2:46:26 AM PST by ziravan (Choose sides.)
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“Touch Screen” controls for phones and tablets and presentations are very important.

But for desktop PC’s?

Forget about it.

No one is going to upgrade a desktop PC to get “Touch.”

I've had “Touch” and a wireless mouse for 12 months.

I experimented for two days with “Touch.”

Ridiculous - a mouse takes less effort, less thought, less time, and you don't have finger smears all over your screen.

And no one is going to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 unless it offers a clearly superior video experience, which it does not.

I've got Windows 7.

Not one problem in 12 months.

Why would I change?

5 posted on 12/30/2012 2:52:34 AM PST by zeestephen
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For all of the negative press it received, I’m happy with my Vista Home Premium 32 bit.


9 posted on 12/30/2012 4:03:29 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Vista is a virus. My XP is a faster and easier than my new 65 bit virus vista. Calcstar has to be the fastest spreadsheet ever made.
17 posted on 12/30/2012 5:42:38 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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I’m a Mac guy, and I have been, forever.

I do have a Windows installation on an NTFS drive in my Mac Pro, and I have run XP, Vista, and Windows 7 on that drive since 2003.

Windows 7 is quite useable, much more so than XP or Vista. From what I’ve seen of Windows 8, it seems like a downgrade. Time will tell.


18 posted on 12/30/2012 5:46:48 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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Setting new standards for stinkage


19 posted on 12/30/2012 5:48:26 AM PST by bigbob
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Setting new standards for stinkage


20 posted on 12/30/2012 5:48:39 AM PST by bigbob
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It seems to me that MS was trying to hard to integrate a new tablet (way overpriced) into the PC world. It would have worked if they simply offered and upgrade to W7.

I have one PC with 8 and it seems okay. Can’t really tell the difference. I am used to the tiles because I have Windows phone.

I haven’t yet tried to run any heavy editing programs on 8. I did download Adera for my son and the graphics are pretty good.

I liked 7 so much, and I imagine there are millions who do, that there is no real reason to upgrade to 8. Touch screens, which is what 8 was intended for, are very expensive and not readily available. Also, unless you want sit right in front of the screen and give up the keyboard, I don’t see how it’s going to work.


21 posted on 12/30/2012 5:49:00 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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It’s a tablet OS shoehorned into PC’s. And other tablet OS’s are better and well established.


23 posted on 12/30/2012 6:03:15 AM PST by motor_racer (Pete, do you ever get tired, of the driving?)
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Like every OS it’s ever released, this one too will be the last nail in Microsoft’s coffin.


25 posted on 12/30/2012 6:12:57 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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“According to Net Applications, Windows 8’s online usage share through Dec. 22 was 1.6% of all Windows PCs, an uptick from 1.2% of November. Windows 8 publicly launched on Oct. 26. At the same two-month mark in Vista’s release timetable, that OS accounted for 2.2% of all Windows systems, double the month prior. …”

So let’s read this like we would read most other stuff posted here from suspected news outlets. This site recently reported that MS’s market share had “fallen” to 26% or so percent after they magically counted all tablets and smartphones as the same as desktop PCs.

So why am I not surprised that they are trolling around the net looking at a company that measures hits to websites as some sort of “proof” to back up their deranged mission to bash Windows 8.


26 posted on 12/30/2012 6:22:34 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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Microsoft convinced me that my computer is really pretty good and does not need replaced.


29 posted on 12/30/2012 6:51:37 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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Had been planning on buying new Lenovo A520 with WIN-8 after the first of the year. However, all the complaints/bitching about WIN-8 have caused me no small amount of concern. My current PC is 9 years old and still works fine. A bit glitchy with graphics etc.

Read 4 pages of reviews on CNET and vast majority were negative. Some call it "VISTA redux." Absence of Start seems to anger many. Business people do not like it.

So guess I'm in a holding pattern for awhile. Plan on visiting Best Buy after kids go back to school next week and crowds dissipate. Perhaps I can get a better feel for WIN-8 in person, as opposed to Youtube...

31 posted on 12/30/2012 7:12:39 AM PST by donozark (I was planning to spend Christmas in Damascus, until I read Isiah 17:1...)
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Not that I needed a new computer - but after reading FR reports on Win8 recently, it seemed prudent to get a new computer —> with Win7. Yes, they are available, and seem to be in a certain demand.


35 posted on 12/30/2012 7:42:24 AM PST by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
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I updated day one. And de-updated day four.


38 posted on 12/30/2012 7:44:02 AM PST by Cyman
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Could it be that having been suckered by Microsoft on Vista, people are not going to make that mistake a second time?
42 posted on 12/30/2012 8:42:23 AM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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Windows 8 is the best Microsoft OS so far. Many people have automatically decided they don't like it because it is so much different than previous Microsoft OS's.

People just don't like change and will complain about anything that is new. Even 20 years later, you have a bunch of grouches out there who are still missing the command line interface that MS-DOS provided.

As good as Windows 8 is however, it is still not anywhere near as good as the Mac OSX operation system. When Apple acquired NeXT computer in the late 1990s and adopted their OS, it was all uphill for Apple from that point on. It will take another 60-80 years, but eventually the Apple OS will surpass Microsoft OS in market share. However, there will be strong competition from the Google and Tcer6x platforms over the next few decades (BTW, Tcer6x has not yet formed as a company but they will be a major player as we head into the middle part of the 21st century.

48 posted on 12/30/2012 10:29:37 AM PST by SamAdams76
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I have an older PC., a 2005 VGC-RA840G (Asus P5LP-VX mobo), 2.8ghz Intel 945p dual core cpu, 3gb ram (total cap. 4gb), and which i only found realized recently was 64 bit.

XP 32bit home would use up most of the ram after a while (i do lots of research etc. and regularly seem to end up with 80+ tabs i want to back to, and over a dozen large documents open), and i heard W8 was better on older PCs than Vista and even W/7.

http://www.techspot.com/review/561-windows8-vs-windows7/page2.html

http://www.hardcoreware.net/windows-7-vs-windows-8-performance/8/

And since 64bit can handle more ramand i could try it for free, i installed the W/8 preview/evaluation off a USB (using the MS W/7 USB installer).

W/8 Preview: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx?wt.mc_id=MEC_132_1_4

W/7 Trial: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/cc442495.aspx

Also helpful,

How the new Windows 8 license terms affect you:
http://www.zdnet.com/how-the-new-windows-8-license-terms-affect-you-7000003028/

http://www.zdnet.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-windows-8-upgrades-faq-part-2-7000008775/

The short review is that W/8 does well on an old PC as this (and should enable me to use more ram), and is more stable than XP (though i managed to freeze it up once under a heavy load, requiring a hard restart, but which XP did more often under such) and also fairly responsive, if not as quick as XP for basic tasks on this box. But it boots to usability quicker (it puts the kernel in hibernation) and seems to launch apps quicker. Ram use seems about the same (or less after some tweaking).

I see its value not as being that of looking for a better social networking helps or a better interface, as i have longed use hot keys (or shortcuts) to get to where i regularly go or to launch main programs/apps, and do not follow many of Windows defaults for things like documents, pictures, graphics. Instead of this being the attraction, it is because it has some improvements and it is not bloated and unduly interrogative (Vista), and with the help of 3rd party apps you can option out of the defaults and customize it to fit your needs.

And for me, as i have no real use for the Metro, primary among these 3rd party apps is Classic Shell: http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/

Use Windows key and E to get access to drives in Metro (Esc or Alt and F4 to get out of that and Windows key and tap i for settings) Use Windows key and Pause/Break as another shortcut for some things.

Because of W/8 qualities i sent away for the upgrade DVD (30.00 at NewEgg last week (not now), with the 40.00 Visa reward card rebate), as well as a 1gb stick of memory, though the latter has not arrived yet. MS also offers a W/8 upgrade 42.00 download till Jan 31. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/buy?ocid=GA8_O_WOL_Hero_ShopHP_FPP_Null

Thank God for enabling good buys, so it may it be used for His work.


56 posted on 01/01/2013 9:05:04 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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